Llama

includes Llama 4, Llama 3, Llama 5, Llama 70B, Llama Guard

6 statements across 4 episodes · 3 bullish · 0 bearish · 3 people on the record · first statement Jan 25, 2025 by John Coogan · said 136 times in 52 episodes since 2024 · across every show →

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brought up most by John Coogan (74), Jordi Hays (11), Russell D'Sa (3), Will Manidis (1), Will Depue (1), Will Brown (1), Brian Chesky (1), Anjney Midha (1)

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2026 17 mentions in 12 episodes 1 per episode
2025 107 mentions in 33 episodes 3 per episode
2024 12 mentions in 7 episodes 2 per episode

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Everything said about Llama, oldest first

Jan 25, 2025 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Coogan: Meta's Llama is the most-used LLM due to Instagram integration
“They're, because Llama is the number one LLM, not because people are hosting it independently. Although they are, plenty of companies are hosting Llama independently. They're the number one used LLM Because it's tucked into Instagram, and so they just have a t…”
John Coogan Jan 25, 2025 ▶ 1:00:33 DeepSeek, Stargate Update, Bees Do Enjoy Honey, Golden Retriever Maxxing, Bring on the Trilly
Jan 25, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Coogan: DeepSeek Open Sourcing Leading-Edge Model Will Disrupt AI Competition
“Zuck has been running this playbook with Llama open sourcing the lagging edge AI model, and it's had a strong effect on the competition. And so deep seek open sourcing, the leading edge model is going to have a similar effect.”
John Coogan Jan 25, 2025 ▶ 45:31 DeepSeek, Stargate Update, Bees Do Enjoy Honey, Golden Retriever Maxxing, Bring on the Trilly
Jan 28, 2025 bullish
Prediction Open · timeframe Jan 2028
Coogan: Western AI Labs Will Port DeepSeek's Optimizations Into Their Models
“It's open source. The paper's out there. So that will get ported back to Llama, to OpenAI, to Anthropic, but I haven't seen that.”
John Coogan Jan 28, 2025 ▶ 50:51 DeepSeek Update, Market Crash, Timeline in Turmoil, Is VC Cooked, Zero Cope Policy
Apr 26, 2025
Insight
D'Sa: Ultra-fast voice AI latency yields diminishing returns
“There's also kind of diminishing returns after a while. To give you an example, I once built this Cerebris demo. I used like a Lama seven B or eight B Lama eight B have to remember these numbers on the primary accounts, but Lama eight B hooked up to Cerebris. …”
Russell D'Sa Apr 26, 2025 ▶ 7:15 Why Hallucination Is Good For AI Voice Agents | Russell D'Sa on TBPN
Jul 5, 2025 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Depue: Meta may eventually shift to releasing closed flagship AI models
“I w it wouldn't surprise me if they go kind of the Google route where like they are still, they still do open source. They still have the llama brand, but it isn't like their flagship thing where they start doing, whether it's for internal products or it's, th…”
Will Depue Jul 5, 2025 ▶ 3:05:44 Weekly Recap: The Soham Parekh Drama, Meta Attacks OpenAI, Trump's Mega Bill
Jul 5, 2025 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Depue: Yann LeCun had no involvement with Meta's LLaMA models
“I think it's a shame that they didn't necessarily have someone in the llama org who was as visible as him because he was not involved with llama at all. Like fair fundamental AI research is like a whole other group that they mostly write papers and do very aca…”
Will Depue Jul 5, 2025 ▶ 2:45:13 Weekly Recap: The Soham Parekh Drama, Meta Attacks OpenAI, Trump's Mega Bill
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