Alibaba

9 statements across 9 episodes · 2 bullish · 2 bearish · 4 people on the record · first statement Jan 25, 2025 by John Coogan · said 51 times in 29 episodes since 2025 · across every show →

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2026 27 mentions in 17 episodes 2 per episode
2025 24 mentions in 12 episodes 2 per episode

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Jan 25, 2025 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Coogan: Alibaba Offloaded Warehouse Costs to Chinese Regional Governments
“Alibaba was able to get regional governments to absorb warehouse construction costs on their balance sheets rather than directly pay for it, and looked extremely asset light and software-y when it went public.”
John Coogan Jan 25, 2025 ▶ 37:30 DeepSeek, Stargate Update, Bees Do Enjoy Honey, Golden Retriever Maxxing, Bring on the Trilly
Apr 26, 2025 bullish
Opinion
Brown: Alibaba Qwen makes the best model suites for research
“Like they make, I think, still the best model suites for like doing research.”
Will Brown Apr 26, 2025 ▶ 17:24 Why Humor Is the True Test of AI Intelligence | Will Brown on TBPN
Dec 12, 2025 positive
Opinion
Hays: Masayoshi Son's Alibaba bet was historically greatest VC investment
“Historically, like, the greatest venture investment ever, in my view, was, ah, Masa's twenty million investment in Alibaba.”
Jordi Hays Dec 12, 2025 ▶ 14:24 Disney Partners with OpenAI, Breaking Down SpaceX’s IPO Plans, Oracle Slips | Diet TBPN
Jan 22, 2026 negative
Assertion Supported
Coogan: Alibaba, Baidu, Kuaishou, and Tencent Downsized Headcounts Across 2021–2023
“Big tech groups in China have been downsizing in the past few years. So this is 20, 21, 20, 22 and 20, 23 for Alibaba, Baidu, Kuaishou and Tencent. And they're all downsizing across those three years.”
John Coogan Jan 22, 2026 ▶ 11:34 Kling AI reaches 12M MAU, China's aging tech worker crisis, drama at ThinkingMachine | Diet TBPN
Mar 6, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Hays: A 3% SpaceX float would beat Alibaba's US IPO record
“Even a tiny three percent float would comfortably eclipse the U.S. IPO record set by Alibaba's twenty five billion dollar float in 2014.”
Jordi Hays Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 28:24 Daniel Gross’ AGI predictions, SpaceX IPO news, Trump takes control of US chip exports | Diet TBPN
Apr 7, 2026 neutral
Insight
Laffont: Meta and Alibaba Sparked Structural Shift by Staying Private Longer
“I think what really changed for us in the early 2010 was meta. Then Facebook and Alibaba staying private for longer. We just never seen companies of that scale who were that important to our research and our market not go public.”
Thomas Laffont Apr 7, 2026 ▶ 24:32 FULL INTERVIEW: Thomas Laffont’s Journey From Hollywood Assistant to Legendary Tech Investor
Jun 27, 2026 negative
Assertion Partly supported
Coogan: Alibaba has repeatedly distilled Anthropic's Claude model
“Anthropix's Alibaba has distilled, clawed many, many times, and I saw a chart of the amount of tokens that are getting resold.”
John Coogan Jun 27, 2026 ▶ 22:24 Shifts In The Creator Economy, Kylie Jenner x Meta, GPT 5.6 Limited Release | Diet TBPN
Jul 21, 2026
Assertion Supported
Hays: China's MOFCOM Discussed Restricting AI Weights and Overseas Training Data
“Moffcom. Talk to AI companies including Alibaba, ByteDance, and Zipu on limiting the transfer of key data for the training of their models overseas, as well as allowing their model weights to be downloaded by foreign users.”
Jordi Hays Jul 21, 2026 ▶ 15:46 U.S. AI Execs Warn as China’s AI Push Grows, Substack Adds AI Detection Tool | Diet TBPN
Aug 5, 2026 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Anthropic accuses major Chinese AI labs of distilling its Claude model
“Anthropic has accused DeepSeek, Moonshot, Minimax, ZAI, Alibaba, all of distilling Claude”
John Coogan Aug 5, 2026 ▶ 28:53 Demis Is Out as DeepMind CEO, Revolut Founder Yacht Drama, AI’s Great Reverse Bank Run | Diet TBPN
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