Emma Lawler

Product Lead, Rippling · 1 appearance on the record.

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Lawler co-founded Moonlight, a marketplace for hiring software developers, which she bootstrapped and sold to PullRequest in 2020. She later founded Velvet, an AI and data infrastructure platform for evaluating and monitoring LLM-powered applications, which was acquired by Arize AI in 2025.

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Insight
Emma Lawler: Bootstrapping brings wealth faster, but scale takes 15 years
“Whereas with a bootstrap company, you don't get that kind of feedback. So it's like, I think you make money faster. You can be personally wealthy faster and you get to help people directly. But you don't get that opportunity for scale unless you work on it for…”
Emma Lawler Jun 29, 2023 ▶ 6:06 Business ideas worth paying attention to
Opinion
Lawler: theSkimm Should Have Bootstrapped Instead of Raising VC
“I think that's a business that should have been bootstrapped to be honest because. Oh, I agree. They, they're, the way they make money is, is through ads. Like they could just hire an entire ads team and bring and become very wealthy off of that. And like even…”
Emma Lawler Jun 29, 2023 ▶ 21:48 Business ideas worth paying attention to
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lawler: Web3 wallet and identity innovations will enter standard databases
“So I expect that some of the innovations that came from there like wallets, like identity, like verified credentials will just make its way into normal databases and already are.”
Emma Lawler Jun 29, 2023 ▶ 28:12 Business ideas worth paying attention to
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lawler: Society faces a crisis without offices or outside communities
“I think we're gonna have kind of a crisis if people don't go back to an office at all or build a community outside of their house.”
Emma Lawler Jun 29, 2023 ▶ 34:26 Business ideas worth paying attention to
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lawler: Has not seen remote work operate productively at scale
“I haven't seen remote work. I haven't been on a company, at a company that's super productive at scale with remote work. So I'm building a remote company also, to be clear.”
Emma Lawler Jun 29, 2023 ▶ 38:39 Business ideas worth paying attention to
Insight
Lawler: Shutting down a startup is far worse than fundraising or M&A
“It's like a really horrible process. Like shutting down a company is, is way worse than like going through the motions to get acquired or raise more money. It's just a horrible process.”
Emma Lawler Jun 29, 2023 ▶ 11:36 Business ideas worth paying attention to
Insight
Lawler: Early-stage startups only exist as long as founders force them to
“And I think entrepreneurs hate that advice of like, it only exists for as long as you make it exist. And then like, once you stop trying, it goes away.”
Emma Lawler Jun 29, 2023 ▶ 13:42 Business ideas worth paying attention to
Insight
Lawler: Running Ad-Driven Media and Product Software Require Incompatible Cultures
“It's really hard to run both a media business that's based on ads and eyeballs. Totally. And a product company, and you have to have people who understand how to do both. And I think that's what I was trying to get out before is that the type of person who bui…”
Emma Lawler Jun 29, 2023 ▶ 22:42 Business ideas worth paying attention to
Insight
Lawler: Modern developer tools enable a single engineer to run complex systems
“So I think in the same way that cloud computing allowed solo entrepreneurs to pop up, the Vercel Supabase different things like that are allowing one engineer to run an entire, very complicated system.”
Emma Lawler Jun 29, 2023 ▶ 29:51 Business ideas worth paying attention to
Opinion
Emma Lawler: Media company ad integration is ripe for software disruption
“I think is pretty ripe for disruption is manual sales teams. Like for media companies, they go out and they sell an ad package to a company, and then it's like this fully manual process to get them integrated with the product. And it, in my opinion, it should …”
Emma Lawler Jun 29, 2023 ▶ 44:19 Business ideas worth paying attention to
Insight
Emma Lawler: Early-stage startups fail by hiring 20 people before PMF
“A lot of early stage companies, I think raise a million to five million dollars and they hire like 20 people. And then you just Run out of money before you get anywhere close to product market fit or creating value.”
Emma Lawler Jun 29, 2023 ▶ 45:24 Business ideas worth paying attention to
Assertion Partly supported
Fitbit acquired 15-person Fitstar when Fitbit had around 2,000 employees
“Yeah, so I joined Fitbit through an acquisition of a small startup called Fitstar. We were about 15 people at that time. And so, went from being in a very entrepreneurial environment to a pre-IPO tech company that was about 2000 people when I joined.”
Emma Lawler Jun 29, 2023 ▶ 4:06 Business ideas worth paying attention to

Appearances (1)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
Business ideas worth paying attention to Jun 29, 2023 24m
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