Ali Hamed

Partner & CEO, Treville · 1 appearance on the record.

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Ali Hamed is the founder and CEO of Treville, an alternative investment firm originally launched as CoVenture. In partnership with Moelis Asset Management, he also co-founded Crossbeam Venture Partners, investing in early-stage fintech, novel asset classes, and platform economy startups.

17statements → 5claims → 3claims resolved → 33%fully supported → 3.94/5average certainty → 1.82/5average debate potential → ≈4.0/5argument clarity, estimated →

1 supported 1 partly supported 1 contradicted 2 not checkable as stated how the 5 claims stand · each chip opens the sources

1 prediction · 4 assertions · 10 insights · 2 disclosures · every statement was checked. The prediction and assertions are the 5 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 3 are resolved, and 2 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

The record, in short

What the tape says about how Ali argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
Hamed: Singapore Subsidizes Housing Near Parents to Cut Care Costs
“Like one of my favorite policies is in Singapore where you're economically incentivized to live closer to your parents. And the idea is like the government's going to save money because you have childcare and elderly care, like embedded residentially, like in …”
Ali Hamed Mar 25, 2024 ▶ 19:44 I asked a $2B investment genius for his best startup ideas (and it was genius)

Their most notable contradicted claim

Assertion Contradicted
Hamed: Research studies estimate Los Angeles needs over one million new homes
“Most studies or sort of research projects on even the city of LA would say LA needs like over a million new homes. And if you assume a starter home is 304 105 100,000 dollars that's a five hundred billion dollar opportunity.”
Ali Hamed Mar 25, 2024 ▶ 10:22 I asked a $2B investment genius for his best startup ideas (and it was genius)

Expressed certainty vs assessment result

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How they sound: not measured why? →

We measure speaking style by listening to the audio itself, and a fair number needs at least 2,000 words from one person on tape we have measured. There is too little of Ali Hamed on measured tape to publish a rate. This says nothing about how they speak.

Everything Ali Hamed said on the Startup Ideas Podcast that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Insight
Hamed: Income Share Agreements Are Inferior to Consumer Loans for Lenders
“The capital provider by themselves with just the income share agreement, wasn't getting properly compensated for how much risk they were taking. It was basically a mediocre or crappier version of a consumer loan, but you were getting paid either the same or sl…”
Ali Hamed Mar 25, 2024 ▶ 27:24 I asked a $2B investment genius for his best startup ideas (and it was genius)
Insight
Hamed: CPG businesses should not be financed with debt
“So the best way to not get, not need a debt collector is to not finance a CPG business with debt.”
Ali Hamed Mar 25, 2024 ▶ 36:21 I asked a $2B investment genius for his best startup ideas (and it was genius)
Insight
Hamed: Controlling critical operational utility grants de facto capital seniority
“You might be junior in the capital stack, but if you turn off the person's account, you suddenly became senior in the capital stack.”
Ali Hamed Mar 25, 2024 ▶ 36:57 I asked a $2B investment genius for his best startup ideas (and it was genius)
Insight
Hamed: Loan-to-value underwriting fails when startup operational risk is binary
“It's very difficult to apply some loan to value or advance rate or however might finance the stuff. If there's binary risks that the whole thing might go poof.”
Ali Hamed Mar 25, 2024 ▶ 5:22 I asked a $2B investment genius for his best startup ideas (and it was genius)
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Hamed: Prefab housing will inevitably produce winners despite early investor losses
“We think it's inevitable that that will become a space where there are successful winners. We just don't think, we think a lot of people are going to lose money along the way. And we'd rather just kind of wait to see the winner emerge.”
Ali Hamed Mar 25, 2024 ▶ 5:31 I asked a $2B investment genius for his best startup ideas (and it was genius)
Insight
Hamed: Founders should build capital-efficient startups before pursuing capital-intensive ideas
“So I would go do the same thing that he did, which is go find another idea that's housing related, that is more capital efficient, build and sell that company. And then use that credibility to go raise a lot of capital out of the gate for a capital intensive o…”
Ali Hamed Mar 25, 2024 ▶ 8:20 I asked a $2B investment genius for his best startup ideas (and it was genius)
Assertion Contradicted
Hamed: Research studies estimate Los Angeles needs over one million new homes
“Most studies or sort of research projects on even the city of LA would say LA needs like over a million new homes. And if you assume a starter home is 304 105 100,000 dollars that's a five hundred billion dollar opportunity.”
Ali Hamed Mar 25, 2024 ▶ 10:22 I asked a $2B investment genius for his best startup ideas (and it was genius)
Insight
Hamed: Taking both operator risk and capital markets risk is a bad investment
“You can't take both operator risk and capital markets risk. That becomes a bad investment idea.”
Ali Hamed Mar 25, 2024 ▶ 11:35 I asked a $2B investment genius for his best startup ideas (and it was genius)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hamed: Top-tier CPG businesses earn 10% to 20% EBITDA margins
“And if you're really, really good as a CPG business, you're earning 10 to 20% EBITDA margins.”
Ali Hamed Mar 25, 2024 ▶ 34:59 I asked a $2B investment genius for his best startup ideas (and it was genius)
Insight
Hamed: Credit assets are often priced by who can hold them, not risk
“Unlike equity in credit assets, aren't always priced based on risk. They're often based on who's allowed to hold them.”
Ali Hamed Mar 25, 2024 ▶ 48:55 I asked a $2B investment genius for his best startup ideas (and it was genius)
Insight
Hamed: Yield collapses once insurance companies can hold an asset class
“So as soon as an insurance company can hold a, like a, an established asset class, like auto or student or consumer, all the yield, all the return falls away.”
Ali Hamed Mar 25, 2024 ▶ 49:25 I asked a $2B investment genius for his best startup ideas (and it was genius)
Insight
Hamed: Credit investing has no glory, like shooting penalty kicks
“Being in credit. It's like being a professional free throw shooter. You know, it's like, there's not, there's no glory or professional penalty kicker. Whenever I'm watching a soccer match, everybody loves PKs and I'm looking, I'm like, this reminds me of my jo…”
Ali Hamed Mar 25, 2024 ▶ 55:50 I asked a $2B investment genius for his best startup ideas (and it was genius)
Assertion Partly supported
Hamed: Soho House Paused Miami and NYC Memberships Due to Overcrowding
“Even Soho House, by the way, which is, you know, the example you gave, like they had to cut off Miami and New York City memberships because those got too crowded.”
Ali Hamed Mar 25, 2024 ▶ 13:21 I asked a $2B investment genius for his best startup ideas (and it was genius)
Assertion Supported
Hamed: Singapore Subsidizes Housing Near Parents to Cut Care Costs
“Like one of my favorite policies is in Singapore where you're economically incentivized to live closer to your parents. And the idea is like the government's going to save money because you have childcare and elderly care, like embedded residentially, like in …”
Ali Hamed Mar 25, 2024 ▶ 19:44 I asked a $2B investment genius for his best startup ideas (and it was genius)
Insight
Hamed: Preferred equity lets founders pay dividends without fixed debt maturities
“If you raise preferred equity, you know, what you get mostly is you don't have a term on the investment. You know, you don't owe the money back at any given time, but you can still maybe like accrue an eight percent dividend or a 12% dividend and meet them in …”
Ali Hamed Mar 25, 2024 ▶ 44:51 I asked a $2B investment genius for his best startup ideas (and it was genius)
Disclosure
CoVenture: Targets cash-positive firms with $50M-$150M revenue for hybrid fund
“The perfect business for us does something between fifty and one hundred fifty million dollars of revenues. You know, they're cashflow positive. They do seven, eight figures of EBITDA. They're growing above 10, 15%, probably under 50%.”
Ali Hamed Mar 25, 2024 ▶ 53:01 I asked a $2B investment genius for his best startup ideas (and it was genius)
Disclosure
Hamed: CoVenture focuses on housing shortages and founder-investor price discovery
“So the two main themes that we've been spending time on are one, you know, the lack of housing and two, the price discovery between founders and investors.”
Ali Hamed Mar 25, 2024 ▶ 1:09 I asked a $2B investment genius for his best startup ideas (and it was genius)

Appearances (1)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
I asked a $2B investment genius for his best startup ideas (and it was genius) Mar 25, 2024 38m
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