Q And, which was also, like, completely, like, uh, different than what people were working on it. So there's something that you two have, which I find interesting, and I'm curious your perspective on it, which is, you don't exactly go toward the trend is. Like, you just kind of come up with ideas that connect with you, and you just, like, are curious, and you follow it. Is that right?
A I mean, I think that's within hand grenade range. I think we're also both very cheap. I think that's something to know about us. And, and so in some ways we've been much more comfortable in the world. Uh, you know, I had this experience of building a bootstrap company with Better World Books and then having the complete opposite with the solar company who had to raise absolute boatloads of capital. So, you know, over two hundred million dollars raised just on my watch for that business. And, um, The whole raising boatloads of capital, that was like, 70% of my job was like, you know, not just the like, oh, making the pitch, like that's the easy part, but really holding together a high-powered board that had maybe different opinions on which we think should go on, um, you know, on sort of navigating funding rounds that don't always happen at the time when the market wants them to happen, and so they can be tough to close, um, So I think for me personally, getting back to the fundamentals of business was, was really interesting. I think that's something Siava and I kind of share is like both a sort of broader view about like social impact beyond just like, let's make something that grows as fast as possible and we can sell for as much as possible. And then also like the real art and fundamentals of business as an, as a practice, I guess, rather than like, what is, what is the hype…
AI assessment note: “I mean, I think that's within hand grenade range.”