The Exchanges

Every argument clarity score on this site is built from rows on this page. Each question and answer was assessed with names hidden, the host's own answers included, on four things from 1 to 5: directness (does it answer the question asked), coherence (do the ideas follow), precision (concrete details and clear references), compression (says a lot per word). The weighted mix (30/30/25/15) is the exchange score. A person's published score averages their exchange scores on raw tape only, at least 8 of them, shrunk toward the cohort mean. Full method →

Chris Hutchins no published score: only 6 usable exchanges on raw tape, and a fair score needs 8+ · coarse estimate ≈4.0/5 from 6 raw tape exchanges record → ← everyone

Every exchange below was scored with names hidden, four dimensions each from 1 to 5. An exchange's score is 0.30·directness + 0.30·coherence + 0.25·precision + 0.15·compression. The published score averages the raw tape exchange scores and shrinks small samples toward the cohort mean, so five great answers can't beat twenty good ones. Produced feed rows count only toward coarse estimates, never toward a full score.

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Answered raw tape D 5 · C 5 · P 4 · Cm 4 4.60

Q I'm, I'm, you know, and that's all, that's all I care about. Like, am I missing anything? Should I be?

A No, I don't even care anymore about downloads for me. The only thing I care about now that this is a business, this is like how we pay our bills. I'm like, are my sponsors renewing? That's the only metric I care about. And like, if our sponsors are not renewing, that means something's not working. Are we not growing fast enough? Are the reads not good? Like if you treat it like a business, do I care? Like if I had half the downloads, but I just kept all the people that are so excited and are supporting our sponsors. That's fine. Like I'm doing the podcast not to be a celebrity, but I like doing it every week and I like, and it takes time. So I need it to make enough money that I don't need to go get another job because then I couldn't do it every week. Um, so I don't think you're wrong, but I think if someone listening is like, I have a podcast and I want to, you know, try to figure out whether people, what topics people like, there are ways that you could look at the analytics to try to figure out, Which episodes are doing better, or which episodes do people listen to longer? I couldn't tell you on my own show, like, which episodes people listen to longer, because I haven't looked at it, because it's not a huge priority for me. The way I decide what I do for episodes is like, what am I interested in? Um, and like, if I am interested in a new topic now, I'll do an episode on th…

AI assessment note: “No, I don't even care anymore about downloads for me.”

Answered raw tape D 5 · C 5 · P 4 · Cm 4 4.60

Q So before we bounce, I asked you a lot of questions. Do you have one question for me?

A One. One, you got one. Uh, so I want to get your take on something that I'm dealing with, which is, I have this podcast. There's a lot of great content. I've decided that each time I do a podcast on a topic, I'm going to translate that to a newsletter version of it, and I feel like newsletter and podcast I have down, and I am awful at you, like, creating any value for anyone on Let's call it just for the scope of this. Since I only get one question, you know, social, I feel like you understand that world. Like, what should I be doing? Should I just ignore it and focus on the platforms that are feel natural? Or am I totally missing out on things? I think my instinct is I hate repurposing. Like, I don't think people want to watch a clip of a podcast as much as they want to watch something that's natively made for that platform. But at the same time, that's just like 10 X the work. So am I crazy for not clipping my show and putting it on social? Am I more crazy if I pay someone to do that? Because I always see these tweets about how profitable all like the same people are like, Hey, use my clipping agency for 5000 dollars a month. It's amazing. Are the same people that are like, I love running this clipping agency. That's a 90% margin business.

AI assessment note: “One. One, you got one. Uh, so I want to get your take”

Answered raw tape D 5 · C 4 · P 4 · Cm 4 4.30

Q dating apps used to be, you know, five dollars a month, nine dollars a month. Um, Raya, I think, charges, I'm gonna pull it up, Now they're charging 50 bucks a month, which is like the Tinder that's more like high end, so to speak. So you are seeing that trend around like people spending 50 dollars a month, but 500 dollars a month? I haven't seen anything like that.

A It was wild. So I'm like, okay, seven day trial. Why not? And we do a seven day trial and the, the quality of the app Is like pre alpha in terms of visuals, right? Like I was looking at an iPhone. Some of the buttons are missing. There's basically, I think, 20,000 games or something, but they so far in the first 150 we've done. There's like seven games, right? And the games are very, very basic visually everything. However, my daughter is learning to sound words like Here's the crazy thing. It doesn't take this beautiful app that's perfectly designed to do anything, but fundamentally, it was working. Like, I sat down with my daughter yesterday, and she's like, s-a-t, s-a-t, s-a-t. And I'm like, wait, you just read a word. Like, prior to today, you haven't read words. You could identify characters and letters, but you couldn't read a word. Now you read a word. And we're like, one week into this app. And I'm like, this is insane. Well, it both works. 500 dollars a month, and so I saw someone post on Twitter, like, this is crazy, you're charging so much money, and the guy's like, well then just buy this book on Amazon, and it's the exact same as our thing, you could just do it yourself, and I was like, ok, so I bought the book on Amazon, right, 500 dollars a month, 17 dollar book, and I look at the book, and the book is literally like, do this exercise with your kid, and it's the …

AI assessment note: “It was wild. So I'm like, okay, seven day trial. Why not?”

Answered raw tape D 4 · C 5 · P 4 · Cm 4 4.30

Q Walk me through how this works. So basically, you, you interview someone on the pod, It, it becomes popular because people are sharing it with a lot of people. Is that what makes a popular episode?

A A weird thing that I was talking about yesterday was that when you look at someone on social media or on YouTube, and you're like, how big is their audience? You're drawn to this number that is usually their number of subscribers, their number of followers, something. Podcasters, there's no public number of followers, okay? So the only number people share, and they don't even share it publicly that often, is how many downloads you get per episode, or how many downloads you get a month. That number, Is completely different from the number of people who listen to the podcast or, or who subscribe to the podcast. Let's say that better. So if you're going to compare the number of people who listen to a podcast to the number of people who, you know, a YouTuber, you'd look at how many videos on, or how many views on average does their video get, which depending on the YouTuber and the type of video could be four percent or 10% of their overall subscriber base. I think for, for my podcast, If I had to guess, and I don't actually know the numbers, and they vary drastically. On Apple, it's like, 50% of the subscribers on Apple listen to an episode on average, and on Spotify, it's like, 12%. And those numbers are only really available for Apple, Spotify, and Google. So for all the other platforms, which is like, a meaningful percentage of listens, I have no idea. My guess is, I have about…

AI assessment note: “an episode that does well is an episode where a higher percentage of the people”

Answered raw tape D 4 · C 4 · P 4 · Cm 4 4.00

Q building all this stuff, and who's just, you know, really charming, and just, like, knows, you know, knows where everything is going, and I was like, I need to be in San Francisco. What am I doing? And in my mind, now, fast forward to Like you were at the pinnacle of Silicon Valley, building startups, raising venture, and now we're, now you're doing creation stuff. How does it feel?

A Yeah. Apologies if anyone's watching the video. Cause I was like, I was so into this moment that I didn't know if we were actually recording and I'm like distracted looking at iPhoto, trying to find photos of this trip to Paris. But, um, I was at a conference yesterday in San Francisco and it was like a VC tech startup conference. And I was like, do I even belong here anymore? Like I know everyone here yet. It feels like it's a whole different world now. I'm like, yeah. So it feels kind of fun to be At the, I mean, I'm not at the ground floor of creator world, right? Like people, millions, it seems like millions of creators have done this before, but for me, it feels as exciting and new as it did back in, I don't know, 2008 when I first learned that people build tech companies for a living. And I was like, I need to go do that. So I don't know. I'm having a lot of fun learning a whole new industry. I find that most people don't treat the creator world like a business. So I meet all these podcasters that are like, Oh, gross. Like, I never really thought about it. Like, monetization. Like, I just thought you just, you know, go to a network and they put ads in. I didn't know there was a better, more optimal way. And so, uh, applying the principles of, like, high-scale venture startup to a new business that hasn't really taken that is fun. That I love.

AI assessment note: “it feels as exciting and new as it did back in, I don't know, 2008”

Redirected raw tape D 2 · C 4 · P 3 · Cm 3 3.00

Q Yeah, exactly. We had, exactly. You have, you have 48 hours to make a million dollars. How do you do it?

A I'm going to challenge the prompt a little because I'm like, well, yes, you didn't say I have to make the million dollars today. I just have to kick something off. That's going to make a million dollars. If there's one thing that I've learned in the last, I don't know, 20 years, it's that it's very hard to keep doing something for more than a couple of years if you don't really, really like it. So for a while, I just thought I was unemployable because I had a series of I had a series of jobs in a row that I just didn't like. And I was like, oh, maybe I don't like jobs, but I never really like took the time to figure out what I liked doing. And I think that's really hard. So, you know, if I had 48 hours to figure out how to make a million dollars and actually love doing it, I would probably spend my 48 hours trying to figure out what kinds of things I enjoy doing, because I'm not going to be able to get to that million dollars if I don't Have the longevity. Like some people are going to do it overnight. Right. But most people it's going to take years. And so kind of experimenting with that. And I, maybe I'd spend some of that time, like interviewing my friends and you know, my spouse about what makes me tick. Sometimes like seeing things in yourself is really hard. When I started a podcast about life optimization, it was so funny. Every single person I knew was like, well, of co…

AI assessment note: “I'm going to challenge the prompt a little because I'm like”

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