Jan 12, 2026 · 55m · startup-ideas

Side Hustle King: 6 $60K/Mo Businesses Nobody's Doing

Chris Koerner · 29m spoken Greg Isenberg · 17m spoken
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Host Greg Isenberg and serial entrepreneur Chris Kerner explore a diverse collection of high-margin, low-friction business ideas spanning AI software, automated mobile services, niche vending, and collectible arbitrage. Throughout the discussion, they emphasize leveraging modern distribution hacks and executing rapidly rather than guarding ideas in secrecy.

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Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Greg holds 37% of the talking time here. How this is scored →

Greg as informed peer 5.5 Guest teaching 4.6 Guest disagreement 1.9 Greg pushing back 3.3
05100:0015:0030:0045:002:28–7:45 · Greg as informed peer 5/10 Building Third-Party Software for Facebook Marketplace Chris educates Greg on Facebook Marketplace data and reveals that contrary to common belief, Facebook's API does allow third-party developer apps. Greg contributes by looking up and citing Shopify app store revenue and developer statistics.7:46–13:08 · Greg as informed peer 5/10 Viral Dumb Products and Short-Form Distribution Chris pitches viral, simple 3D-printed physical products distributed via short-form algorithms. Greg expands on human psychology by suggesting founders intentionally add useless AI features to harness anti-AI rage-bait engagement.13:08–17:11 · Greg as informed peer 7/10 Why Founders Should Openly Share Business Ideas When Chris argues that founders shouldn't fear sharing ideas and suggests Facebook developers copy bar conversations, Greg pushes back using his background advising major tech platforms, explaining that tech giants ignore ideas until they hit massive scale and clear revenue thresholds.17:11–24:31 · Greg as informed peer 6/10 Automated Mobile Bike and Sports Gear Wash Chris breaks down the unit economics and manual MVP setup for a mobile bike-washing trailer. Greg builds on the model by suggesting municipal B2G trail partnerships and applying subscription pricing learned from local car wash operators.24:32–31:56 · Greg as informed peer 5/10 Anti-Drink Spiking Stickers and Nightlife Marketing Chris shares his college wristband advertising story and pitches drink-spiking prevention stickers sold to nightlife venues. Greg validates the concept by connecting it to entrepreneur Ty Haney's IRL experiential customer acquisition thesis.31:56–36:39 · Greg as informed peer 4/10 High-Margin Trailhead and Niche Vending Machines Chris details the high profit margins of rock vending machines using Buc-ee's retail spatial planning as proof. Greg adapts the concept to tourist seashell dispensers at beach destination airports.36:39–46:48 · Greg as informed peer 5/10 Cornering Vintage First-Edition Pokémon Collectibles Chris reveals his strategy of buying vintage 1999 first-edition non-holo cards to corner the market. Greg questions the realistic scalability and high capital outlay, prompting Chris to double down and demand the clip be highlighted as an eight-figure business thesis.46:48–54:23 · Greg as informed peer 7/10 Disrupting the Legacy Card Grading Monopoly Greg highlights the inefficiencies of PSA's grading monopoly and rejects Chris's high-friction industry equity scheme. Together they design a fast, gamified DTC alternative featuring live streams, mystery pulls, and smartphone photo scanning.2:28–7:45 · Guest teaching 6/10 Building Third-Party Software for Facebook Marketplace Chris educates Greg on Facebook Marketplace data and reveals that contrary to common belief, Facebook's API does allow third-party developer apps. Greg contributes by looking up and citing Shopify app store revenue and developer statistics.7:46–13:08 · Guest teaching 4/10 Viral Dumb Products and Short-Form Distribution Chris pitches viral, simple 3D-printed physical products distributed via short-form algorithms. Greg expands on human psychology by suggesting founders intentionally add useless AI features to harness anti-AI rage-bait engagement.13:08–17:11 · Guest teaching 3/10 Why Founders Should Openly Share Business Ideas When Chris argues that founders shouldn't fear sharing ideas and suggests Facebook developers copy bar conversations, Greg pushes back using his background advising major tech platforms, explaining that tech giants ignore ideas until they hit massive scale and clear revenue thresholds.17:11–24:31 · Guest teaching 5/10 Automated Mobile Bike and Sports Gear Wash Chris breaks down the unit economics and manual MVP setup for a mobile bike-washing trailer. Greg builds on the model by suggesting municipal B2G trail partnerships and applying subscription pricing learned from local car wash operators.24:32–31:56 · Guest teaching 5/10 Anti-Drink Spiking Stickers and Nightlife Marketing Chris shares his college wristband advertising story and pitches drink-spiking prevention stickers sold to nightlife venues. Greg validates the concept by connecting it to entrepreneur Ty Haney's IRL experiential customer acquisition thesis.31:56–36:39 · Guest teaching 4/10 High-Margin Trailhead and Niche Vending Machines Chris details the high profit margins of rock vending machines using Buc-ee's retail spatial planning as proof. Greg adapts the concept to tourist seashell dispensers at beach destination airports.36:39–46:48 · Guest teaching 6/10 Cornering Vintage First-Edition Pokémon Collectibles Chris reveals his strategy of buying vintage 1999 first-edition non-holo cards to corner the market. Greg questions the realistic scalability and high capital outlay, prompting Chris to double down and demand the clip be highlighted as an eight-figure business thesis.46:48–54:23 · Guest teaching 4/10 Disrupting the Legacy Card Grading Monopoly Greg highlights the inefficiencies of PSA's grading monopoly and rejects Chris's high-friction industry equity scheme. Together they design a fast, gamified DTC alternative featuring live streams, mystery pulls, and smartphone photo scanning.2:28–7:45 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Building Third-Party Software for Facebook Marketplace Chris educates Greg on Facebook Marketplace data and reveals that contrary to common belief, Facebook's API does allow third-party developer apps. Greg contributes by looking up and citing Shopify app store revenue and developer statistics.7:46–13:08 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Viral Dumb Products and Short-Form Distribution Chris pitches viral, simple 3D-printed physical products distributed via short-form algorithms. Greg expands on human psychology by suggesting founders intentionally add useless AI features to harness anti-AI rage-bait engagement.13:08–17:11 · Guest disagreement 3/10 Why Founders Should Openly Share Business Ideas When Chris argues that founders shouldn't fear sharing ideas and suggests Facebook developers copy bar conversations, Greg pushes back using his background advising major tech platforms, explaining that tech giants ignore ideas until they hit massive scale and clear revenue thresholds.17:11–24:31 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Automated Mobile Bike and Sports Gear Wash Chris breaks down the unit economics and manual MVP setup for a mobile bike-washing trailer. Greg builds on the model by suggesting municipal B2G trail partnerships and applying subscription pricing learned from local car wash operators.24:32–31:56 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Anti-Drink Spiking Stickers and Nightlife Marketing Chris shares his college wristband advertising story and pitches drink-spiking prevention stickers sold to nightlife venues. Greg validates the concept by connecting it to entrepreneur Ty Haney's IRL experiential customer acquisition thesis.31:56–36:39 · Guest disagreement 1/10 High-Margin Trailhead and Niche Vending Machines Chris details the high profit margins of rock vending machines using Buc-ee's retail spatial planning as proof. Greg adapts the concept to tourist seashell dispensers at beach destination airports.36:39–46:48 · Guest disagreement 4/10 Cornering Vintage First-Edition Pokémon Collectibles Chris reveals his strategy of buying vintage 1999 first-edition non-holo cards to corner the market. Greg questions the realistic scalability and high capital outlay, prompting Chris to double down and demand the clip be highlighted as an eight-figure business thesis.46:48–54:23 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Disrupting the Legacy Card Grading Monopoly Greg highlights the inefficiencies of PSA's grading monopoly and rejects Chris's high-friction industry equity scheme. Together they design a fast, gamified DTC alternative featuring live streams, mystery pulls, and smartphone photo scanning.2:28–7:45 · Greg pushing back 1/10 Building Third-Party Software for Facebook Marketplace Chris educates Greg on Facebook Marketplace data and reveals that contrary to common belief, Facebook's API does allow third-party developer apps. Greg contributes by looking up and citing Shopify app store revenue and developer statistics.7:46–13:08 · Greg pushing back 3/10 Viral Dumb Products and Short-Form Distribution Chris pitches viral, simple 3D-printed physical products distributed via short-form algorithms. Greg expands on human psychology by suggesting founders intentionally add useless AI features to harness anti-AI rage-bait engagement.13:08–17:11 · Greg pushing back 6/10 Why Founders Should Openly Share Business Ideas When Chris argues that founders shouldn't fear sharing ideas and suggests Facebook developers copy bar conversations, Greg pushes back using his background advising major tech platforms, explaining that tech giants ignore ideas until they hit massive scale and clear revenue thresholds.17:11–24:31 · Greg pushing back 2/10 Automated Mobile Bike and Sports Gear Wash Chris breaks down the unit economics and manual MVP setup for a mobile bike-washing trailer. Greg builds on the model by suggesting municipal B2G trail partnerships and applying subscription pricing learned from local car wash operators.24:32–31:56 · Greg pushing back 2/10 Anti-Drink Spiking Stickers and Nightlife Marketing Chris shares his college wristband advertising story and pitches drink-spiking prevention stickers sold to nightlife venues. Greg validates the concept by connecting it to entrepreneur Ty Haney's IRL experiential customer acquisition thesis.31:56–36:39 · Greg pushing back 2/10 High-Margin Trailhead and Niche Vending Machines Chris details the high profit margins of rock vending machines using Buc-ee's retail spatial planning as proof. Greg adapts the concept to tourist seashell dispensers at beach destination airports.36:39–46:48 · Greg pushing back 5/10 Cornering Vintage First-Edition Pokémon Collectibles Chris reveals his strategy of buying vintage 1999 first-edition non-holo cards to corner the market. Greg questions the realistic scalability and high capital outlay, prompting Chris to double down and demand the clip be highlighted as an eight-figure business thesis.46:48–54:23 · Greg pushing back 5/10 Disrupting the Legacy Card Grading Monopoly Greg highlights the inefficiencies of PSA's grading monopoly and rejects Chris's high-friction industry equity scheme. Together they design a fast, gamified DTC alternative featuring live streams, mystery pulls, and smartphone photo scanning.

speaking balance: gold is Greg, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Greg 46.9% · guest 53.1%0:00 · Greg 46.9% · guest 53.1%3:00 · Greg 30.1% · guest 69.9%3:00 · Greg 30.1% · guest 69.9%6:00 · Greg 36.1% · guest 63.9%6:00 · Greg 36.1% · guest 63.9%9:00 · Greg 37.1% · guest 62.9%9:00 · Greg 37.1% · guest 62.9%12:00 · Greg 19.9% · guest 80.1%12:00 · Greg 19.9% · guest 80.1%15:00 · Greg 47.8% · guest 52.2%15:00 · Greg 47.8% · guest 52.2%18:00 · Greg 43.1% · guest 56.9%18:00 · Greg 43.1% · guest 56.9%21:00 · Greg 67.6% · guest 32.4%21:00 · Greg 67.6% · guest 32.4%24:00 · Greg 13.8% · guest 86.2%24:00 · Greg 13.8% · guest 86.2%27:00 · Greg 10.4% · guest 89.6%27:00 · Greg 10.4% · guest 89.6%30:00 · Greg 42.7% · guest 57.3%30:00 · Greg 42.7% · guest 57.3%33:00 · Greg 35.9% · guest 64.1%33:00 · Greg 35.9% · guest 64.1%36:00 · Greg 20.1% · guest 79.9%36:00 · Greg 20.1% · guest 79.9%39:00 · Greg 3.6% · guest 96.4%39:00 · Greg 3.6% · guest 96.4%42:00 · Greg 67.8% · guest 32.2%42:00 · Greg 67.8% · guest 32.2%45:00 · Greg 43.4% · guest 56.6%45:00 · Greg 43.4% · guest 56.6%48:00 · Greg 50.4% · guest 49.6%48:00 · Greg 50.4% · guest 49.6%51:00 · Greg 34.9% · guest 65.1%51:00 · Greg 34.9% · guest 65.1%54:00 · Greg 77.5% · guest 22.5%54:00 · Greg 77.5% · guest 22.5%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 44:55 Backtracking the backtrack on eight-figure Pokémon scaling

Chris emphatically rejects the notion that his vintage Pokémon buying strategy is just a small hobby, calling out the editor to clip his argument that cornering all 152 cards scales to an eight-figure business.

Hardest push from Greg ▶ 16:06 Greg challenges Chris's big-tech idea theft scenario

Greg refuses Chris's premise that Facebook developers steal early-stage startup ideas overheard at bars, citing his firsthand advisory experience to explain why tech giants only pursue validated billion-dollar opportunities.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 3:30 Educating on Facebook Marketplace's unexploited API permissions

Chris corrects Greg's assumption that building third-party tools on Facebook Marketplace is technically prohibited, explaining that the API permits scraping and arbitrage software.

Greg holds their own ▶ 16:15 Greg details corporate product vetting inside big tech

Greg demonstrates insider domain expertise regarding tech enterprise operations, explaining the exact risk-reward thresholds and validation metrics required before leadership at companies like Facebook will execute on an idea.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicGreg as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementGreg pushing backWhy
Building Third-Party Software for Facebook Marketplace 5621 Chris educates Greg on Facebook Marketplace data and reveals that contrary to common belief, Facebook's API does allow third-party developer apps. Greg contributes by looking up and citing Shopify app store revenue and developer statistics.
Viral Dumb Products and Short-Form Distribution 5413 Chris pitches viral, simple 3D-printed physical products distributed via short-form algorithms. Greg expands on human psychology by suggesting founders intentionally add useless AI features to harness anti-AI rage-bait engagement.
Why Founders Should Openly Share Business Ideas 7336 When Chris argues that founders shouldn't fear sharing ideas and suggests Facebook developers copy bar conversations, Greg pushes back using his background advising major tech platforms, explaining that tech giants ignore ideas until they hit massive scale and clear revenue thresholds.
Automated Mobile Bike and Sports Gear Wash 6512 Chris breaks down the unit economics and manual MVP setup for a mobile bike-washing trailer. Greg builds on the model by suggesting municipal B2G trail partnerships and applying subscription pricing learned from local car wash operators.
Anti-Drink Spiking Stickers and Nightlife Marketing 5512 Chris shares his college wristband advertising story and pitches drink-spiking prevention stickers sold to nightlife venues. Greg validates the concept by connecting it to entrepreneur Ty Haney's IRL experiential customer acquisition thesis.
High-Margin Trailhead and Niche Vending Machines 4412 Chris details the high profit margins of rock vending machines using Buc-ee's retail spatial planning as proof. Greg adapts the concept to tourist seashell dispensers at beach destination airports.
Cornering Vintage First-Edition Pokémon Collectibles 5645 Chris reveals his strategy of buying vintage 1999 first-edition non-holo cards to corner the market. Greg questions the realistic scalability and high capital outlay, prompting Chris to double down and demand the clip be highlighted as an eight-figure business thesis.
Disrupting the Legacy Card Grading Monopoly 7425 Greg highlights the inefficiencies of PSA's grading monopoly and rejects Chris's high-friction industry equity scheme. Together they design a fast, gamified DTC alternative featuring live streams, mystery pulls, and smartphone photo scanning.

Statements from this episode (16)

Insight
Chris Kerner: Every Business Is Scalable; Question Is Degree of Difficulty
“I, in my opinion, everything is scalable, right? So the question, I just hate it when people say like, is that even scalable? Like, yes, it's scalable. The right question is how hard would it be to scale to that, to whatever number?”
Chris Koerner Jan 12, 2026 ▶ 1:52
Assertion Supported
Kerner: 51% of Social Media Purchases Happen on Facebook Marketplace
“51% of all recent social media purchases, so like not Amazon, social media purposes, all happened on Facebook Marketplace, ok?”
Chris Koerner Jan 12, 2026 ▶ 3:08
Assertion Contradicted
Kerner: Facebook Marketplace APIs Allow Third-Party Apps to Be Built
“I've already looked into it. Don't tell me the API permissions don't allow for it because they do.”
Chris Koerner Jan 12, 2026 ▶ 3:58
Insight
Kerner: Content only goes viral when half of viewers think it's dumb
“Nothing goes viral without half of people thinking you're dumb.”
Chris Koerner Jan 12, 2026 ▶ 9:25
Opinion
Isenberg: People in general and on TikTok violently hate AI
“Especially on TikTok but in the world generally people hate AI. People hate it. Like it's very, very like they violently hate AI.”
Greg Isenberg Jan 12, 2026 ▶ 10:50
Insight
Kerner: A founder's sole business idea is almost never their best bet
“The statistical probability that the only idea you have being like the best use of your time and money is almost zero. So keep that in mind, irrespective of my opinion of the idea. It's probably not the right idea for you because you don't have anything to com…”
Chris Koerner Jan 12, 2026 ▶ 12:23
Insight
Kerner: People only steal ideas if they share your exact background
“And so when we share our ideas, the only chance of someone stealing it is if that other person has had like the exact same life as us. They had the same work history, the same personality. They're also an introvert. Their mom also divorced their dad at age 14.…”
Chris Koerner Jan 12, 2026 ▶ 14:01
Insight
Isenberg: Big tech ignores startup ideas until they reach millions of users
“Someone like Facebook is only copying your idea once it hits millions or hundreds of millions of users.”
Greg Isenberg Jan 12, 2026 ▶ 16:16
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kerner: Germany Leads Health/Fitness Trends Which Later Move West
“Germany is the world leader when it comes to health and fitness trends, and those trends always come out west.”
Chris Koerner Jan 12, 2026 ▶ 17:23
Opinion
Kerner: Startup ideas are more important today than ever
“Ideas are everything. They're more important than ever today.”
Chris Koerner Jan 12, 2026 ▶ 26:52
Insight
Kerner: Repackaging existing products for new uses reliably creates winning businesses
“It's just, it's an old product in a different way with a different package, which has shown time and time and again, like, there's nothing too stupid. Like, you just repackage something, reframe it, how it's used, and you went.”
Chris Koerner Jan 12, 2026 ▶ 29:41
Assertion Supported
Kerner: Polished rock vending machines yield a 90% gross margin
“The rocks cost between five and 20 cents each. You sell them for two dollars each. That's a 90% profit margin.”
Chris Koerner Jan 12, 2026 ▶ 32:51
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kerner: Buc-ee's omits dining seating because table square footage is unprofitable
“That's why one of their biggest complaints is no seating for food. Like, they sell, they have multiple restaurants in there, but you can't sit down and eat anywhere, and it's because it's not profitable for them to put in tables, right?”
Chris Koerner Jan 12, 2026 ▶ 34:02
Insight
Kerner: Vending machines enable offline A/B testing for physical retail
“I love vending machines because it enables like offline AB testing. Right? Take one kind of generic vending machine, and you just, every month, you just swap out something else. Swap out the sign, swap out the product, and just see what crushes.”
Chris Koerner Jan 12, 2026 ▶ 35:24
Assertion Partly supported
Kerner: Kabuto King drove vintage card prices up 100x in 3 months
“And so now the price of a first edition Kabuto, ungraded, I think, last I checked, is like 10 to 20 dollars. So he has influenced the price to go up a hundred X plus over the course of about three months.”
Chris Koerner Jan 12, 2026 ▶ 38:26
Disclosure
Kerner has hoarded 1,000 ungraded first-edition 1999 Fossil Pokémon cards
“I have been buying two different cards. From 1999, fossil edition first first edition only, non-holographic, ungraded, any condition, near mint, heavily played, doesn't matter, and I have about a thousand of them so far, ok?”
Chris Koerner Jan 12, 2026 ▶ 39:21
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