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Y Combinator rejected Wealthsimple's early prototype due to market doubts

Mike Katchen · Mike Katchen, Co-Founder of Wealthsimple | How to Come up with an Idea that Gets Product Market Fit · PMF Show · Apr 17, 2023 · at 8:32

Mike Katchen is the co-founder and CEO of Wealthsimple. He recounts applying to Y Combinator with their initial prototype, SteadyUp, before pivoting the product model.

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“We applied to YC, little known fact about Wealthsimple's history at this stage. Got turned down because they didn't quite believe that anybody wanted what we were trying to build.”

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Assertion Supported
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Assertion Contradicted
Wealthsimple currently manages roughly $20 billion in client assets
“You know, companies are roughly twenty billion or so today, which is you know, nothing to sneeze at, but it's not a trillion yet.”
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Assertion Supported
Regulators initially forced Wealthsimple to call every new customer for suitability
“It took us like six months to get the approval, which felt like forever. Maybe it wasn't in a regulatory world, but then even when we got approval, we actually had all these conditions on it where we had to call every single client who signed up to do a suitab…”
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Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Wealthsimple used six months of data to convince regulators of digital onboarding
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Assertion Not checkable as stated
Wealthsimple benefited massively from a bull market and the meme stock craze
“Like we were a massive beneficiary of starting the business in a huge bull run in the markets. You know, we were around with a stock trading app during meme stocks that was just incredibly successful.”
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