“Like Anthropix revenue is coming from enterprises that are paying for cloud code to do a lot of the work that developers used to do.”
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“Things that we thought might be useful in the past, like A human in the loop. Now that you're going to have a hundred X, a thousand X, a million X of these actions, that's not going to work.”
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Independent AI oversight will become a $100 billion market opportunity
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Smarter AI models will make mechanistic interpretability and tracking more effective
“But as we're starting to have models that are much smarter than us, at least in some important ways, we think that we'll be able to start tracking mechanistic capability much more effectively.”
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Claude Code became the first widely used autonomous AI agent
“We had a cloud code, which became like the really first widely used autonomous agent.”
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Autonomous AI agents recently caused enterprise downtimes and credential leaks
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