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Ben Mann defines transformative AI by the 'Economic Turing Test'

Ben Mann · No Priors Ep. 118 | With Anthropic Co-Founder Ben Mann · Jun 12, 2025 · at 15:00

Anthropic co-founder Ben Mann outlines his framework for identifying when AI reaches transformative societal and economic scale.

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“Yeah, I guess the way I define my metric for when things start to get really interesting from a societal and cultural standpoint is when we've passed the economic Turing test, which is if you take a market basket that represents like, 50% of economically valuable tasks, and you basically have the hiring manager for each of those roles hire an agent and pass the economic Turing test, which is the agent contracts for you for like a month. At the end, you have to decide, do I hire this person or machine? And then if it ends up being a machine, then it passed. Then that's when we have transformative AI.”

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