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Prediction Not checkable as stated
Bhushan: Goyal and Majety will replace Tata and Reliance as role models
“I think, 50 years from now, we'll not talk about Reliance Starter. We'll probably talk about Dipinder and Harsha. I hope that happens, but they would be the next role model.”
Opinion
Kumar: Indian Conglomerates Grow via Acquisitions, Not Innovation
“Indian chai balls have grown by acquisition, not by developing technology. Neither Tata's have developed technology, nor Adani's, nor Ambani's. Et cetera. They've imported technology and on the basis of imported technology, they've done it.”
Opinion
Shenoy: Tata Group Operates Mostly Like a PSU Culturally
“See Tata is a PSU. By, for the most part.”
Disclosure
Parekh: Tata Group doesn't pressure BigBasket for rapid quick commerce leadership
“They're not you know, let me put it this way very fussed about what is the rate of growth and how soon will you become number one? And why shouldn't you be the largest in quick commerce and all of that? I think that their focus is build a good brand. Let's mak…”
Opinion
India Has Virtually No M&A Exit Paths for Unicorn Startups
“The exit paths are actually M&A paths are pretty, are just non-existent. Nobody's buying companies at billion dollars, two billion dollars, three billion dollars in India. It's not As well developed in India yet, you know, you don't have the tatas and the burl…”
Insight
Bajaj: Multi-business tech founders should be embraced like traditional conglomerates
“When you look at Tata, Ambani, Birla, Adani, all of these guys, they are in multiple businesses. That's considered a feature. When a tech entrepreneur wants to do multiple businesses, it's considered a bug.”
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Sharma: Reliance And Tata Leaders Aim To Launch Industrial AI Labs
“Our big companies like Reliance you know, our leaders there are very interested in doing that. You know, in Tata's, they're very interested in doing that and others, and I'm hoping that they'll make the right big moves to create these kinds of industrial labs.”
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Shenoy: Transformation of Air India Under Tata Will Take Decades
“Tata thinks in terms of decades. So you should also expect change will happen in decades.”
Opinion
Sacheti: Tata executives sometimes struggle with tough decisions by being too nice
“I think there are also many things you learn what not to do, because in being nice, they also get so caught up that sometimes they're super nice and they don't know how to make tough decisions on that.”
Prediction Open · timeframe Jun 2025
Menon predicts BigBasket will become a $10B company under Tata's ownership
“We will still build a ten billion dollar company. So there is nothing different in BigBasket.”
What-if
Chopra: Reliance and Tata would have crushed Flipkart if ecommerce was predictable
“When Flipkart came along initially. It was very hard to model whether Indians would shop online or not. There was just no precedent for it. If it was very easy, I think Reliance, Tata, and all these big companies would have entered it.”
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Sudhakar: Tata's acquisition of BigBasket closed without a single in-person meeting
“The crazy thing is, this is such a complex and a very large deal. And all of it happened without one meeting, because this is the time when COVID was just, right? Outstanding how a deal of this size we could do without actually meeting.”
Assertion Supported
Ahluwalia: Tata acquired 60%+ of BigBasket for $1B+ and revalued at $3B
“For example, with big basket, right? They bought 60% plus stake for one billion plus, and now they valued the company again in a refinancing at three billion.”
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sacheti: Tata will beat short-term rivals by backing founders long-term
“As long as they stay true to this program and to this course where they keep supporting entrepreneurs, they will beat out all those who have short term goals on that.”
Disclosure
Tandon: Indusface took Tata investment because bootstrapping limited growth acceleration
“A couple of years or two and a half years back, we realized that being bootstrapped is not going to really help us grow. We need now to get into mold of you know, acceleration, and we need the right partner make sure we have the right partner who can guide us,…”
Assertion Supported
Ratan Tata Made Tata Companies Earn Brand Usage Through Conduct Codes
“He put in place what is now called the BBP, the Brand Equity and Business Promotion Program. And companies had to sign on to be able to use the Tata brand. And if they wish to use the Tata brand, they had to commit to the Tata business excellence model, and th…”
Assertion Supported
Ratan Tata Mandated Business Excellence Assessments Across All Tata Group Companies
“So he established what was called the GRDQV program, which later became the Tata Business Excellence Model, which required companies of the Tata Group to go through what is called a Tata Business Excellence Model Assessment. Where each company of the group is …”
Assertion Supported
J.R.D. Tata Persuaded Ratan Tata to Reject IBM For Tata Group
“And when he came to India, he had a job offer from IBM at that time. But then J.R.D. Tata, who was the chairman of the Tata Group at that time, persuaded Ratan Tata to join the Tata Group.”
Assertion Supported
Tata Group Revenues Grew From $6B to $100B Under Ratan Tata
“During the 20 years that he was the chairman of the Tata group, the revenues of the group grew from six billion US dollars to hundred billion US dollars.”
Assertion Supported
Ganesh: Tata owns 66% of BigBasket with 33% held by founders and investors
“Tata's now own 66% balance. 33% is held by us, by founders and by as I send capital a bit and much later stage investors.”
Assertion Supported
Bhat: Tata Group's acquisitions of JLR, Corus, Tetley were unprecedented in India
“He himself led the globalization of the group, the acquisition of global brands such as Jaguar Land Rover, Chorus. Tetley. Those were global acquisitions which, ah, you know, Where pioneering acquisitions had never happened before that in the history of India.”
Assertion Supported
Tata Trusts own more than 66% of Tata Sons equity
“And until now, more than 66% of the equity of Tata Sons, the holding company of the Tata group, is owned by the Tata Trusts.”
Disclosure
Parekh: BigBasket held board reviews every 15 days for two years
“One of the first things we did when we started the big basket was we said, we'll have a 15 day board review. So you used to do, and for the first two years, I think we did a board review every 15 days. For the six, seven years of, I mean, till I think Tata's c…”
Assertion Supported
British Chief Engineer scoffed he would eat any steel Tatas produced
“The chief engineer of the British Railways at that time was a gentleman called Sir Frederick Upcott. And he notably said, he said, oh, do you think the Tatas will make their own steel? He said, if the Tatas make their own steel, I will eat every pound of it.”
Assertion Supported
Harish Bhat: Average Fortune 500 company lifespan is 40 years and declining
“The average age of a Fortune 500 company today is 40 years and it's declining, which means in 40 years time, an organization grows, plateaus, and then starts declining.”
Assertion Supported
Jamsetji Tata Conceived Four Historic Firsts in Indian Industry and Education
“He built, he conceived of India's first integrated steel plant. He conceived of India's first University of Higher Education in Science, which is in this very city, Bangalore, in the Institute of Science. He conceived of India's first major hydroelectric proje…”
Assertion Supported
Bhat: Tata Charitable Trusts own 66% of Tata Sons
“So until now, we are 66%, the Tata Group is 66% owned by the Tata Charitable Trust, which means when Tata Sons issues a dividend out of the profits that it makes, 66% goes back to the Tata Trust”
Assertion Supported
Bhat: Bombay House maintains a ground-floor kennel for stray dogs
“So that's why, you know, Bombay house until today has a kennel for dogs on the ground floor.”
Assertion Supported
Ahluwalia: Tata Group typically buys 60-70% of acquisition targets, retaining founders
“For example, the Tata Group acquired, the Tata consumer acquired One MG, which is a digital pharmacy business, and they never do a hundred percent acquisition. They do 60, 70% acquisition. And let the 30% remain with the founders so that the founders can see t…”
Assertion Supported
Bhat: Tata Group pioneered Indian aviation, IT services, salt, and jewelry
“The Tata Group has pioneered hydroelectric energy, aviation, commercial vehicles, IT services, branded salt, branded jewelry, India's first indigenous car.”