Jan 24, 2022 · 48m · neon-show
The Gardening Approach of Seed Investing ft Bipin Shah, Partner, Titan Capital
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Titan Capital Partner Bipin Shah details the firm's unique proprietary seed investing model, their founder-first 'gardening' support philosophy, and strategies for navigating India's rapidly evolving startup ecosystem and surging seed valuations.
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Siddhartha as informed peer 1.8 Guest teaching 2.1 Guest disagreement 0.2 Siddhartha pushing back 0.2
speaking balance: gold is Siddhartha, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 27:20 Dismissal of fixed valuation boundaries
Bipin rejects the premise of keeping a strict valuation ceiling, explaining that market realities forced Titan to completely discard their lower-valuation deal category.
Hardest push from Siddhartha ▶ 23:32 Quantifying portfolio mortalitySiddharth immediately crystallizes Bipin's raw numbers into an exact portfolio metric, highlighting that Titan's mortality rate is sitting at roughly 10%.
Biggest teaching moment ▶ 17:20 Subverting standard VC portfolio prioritizationBipin educates the listener and host on how Titan reverses conventional VC practice by dedicating time to struggling bottom-quartile startups rather than top performers.
Siddhartha holds their own ▶ 7:41 Citing host's specific research on $100M ARR betsSiddharth demonstrates strong preparation by directly citing Bipin's specific analysis of Titan's enterprise software pipeline.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
| Chapter | Topic | Siddhartha as informed peer | Guest teaching | Guest disagreement | Siddhartha pushing back | Why |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| The Evolution and Inflation of Seed-Stage Valuations | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Introductory segment where a teaser clip of Bipin Shah discussing valuation inflation plays before Siddharth delivers his sponsor read and guest introduction. | |
| Bipin Shah's Journey and the Founding of Titan Capital | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | Siddharth asks a friendly open question about how Bipin joined Kunal Bahl and Rohit Bansal. Bipin explains his transition from Lead Angels to Titan Capital and details the origin of their gardening approach. | |
| Titan Capital Portfolio Scale and Future Hundred-Million-Dollar Bets | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0 | Siddharth demonstrates familiarity with Bipin's public writing by citing a LinkedIn post about future $100M ARR SaaS companies. Bipin provides specific company names and explains their unicorn and soonicorn pipeline. | |
| Titan Capital's Sourcing Pipeline and Investment Decision Workflow | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | Siddharth asks about the volume of inbound deal flow and the internal review workflow. Bipin breaks down the mathematical funnel from 3500 scanned companies to ~90 investments per year. | |
| The Gardening Philosophy and Supporting the Bottom Fifty Percent | 1 | 4 | 1 | 0 | Bipin presents a contrarian viewpoint explaining why Titan focuses active time on the bottom 50% of portfolio companies rather than following conventional VC practice of only backing top winners. | |
| Analyzing Startup Mortality Rates and Portfolio Shutdowns | 3 | 2 | 0 | 1 | Siddharth inquires directly about total portfolio shutdowns and quickly computes that 22 out of 250 represents approximately a 10% mortality rate. Bipin provides detailed nuances on when Titan counts a business as a write-off. | |
| Capital Recycling, Check Sizes, and Exit Strategies | 2 | 2 | 0 | 1 | Siddharth probes on exit counts, check sizes, and whether exits were concentrated in unicorns. Bipin clarifies their secondary exit philosophy driven by proprietary capital constraints rather than external LP fund timelines. | |
| Navigating High Valuations and Prioritizing Founder Caliber | 2 | 3 | 1 | 0 | When asked about valuation caps, Bipin explains how the market forced them to abandon their internal THD vs HVD framework as average seed rounds climbed toward $8-10M valuations. | |
| Decade-Long Seed Investing Learnings and Global Expansion | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | Siddharth prompts Bipin for decade-long seed investing learnings. Bipin offers an extended narrative covering early days at IIT Bombay, mentoring founders, and the globalization of Indian startups. | |
| Complementary Leadership Lessons from Kunal Bahl and Rohit Bansal | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | Siddharth asks for key leadership lessons learned from Kunal Bahl and Rohit Bansal. Bipin contrasts Kunal's innovative paranoia with Rohit's strict data obsession, positioning himself as operating at the equator. |
Statements from this episode (16)
Bipin Shah: Seed Startups Need Investor Time More Than Money
“For first two, three years of venture more than money our portfolio companies need a lot of time and that time where investor need to help them on PMF what should be how to focus on the right TG and what should be our North star metric.”
Kunal Bahl and Rohit Bansal Began Angel Investing in Mid-2011
“When I joined, he had already invested in Ola, Urban Clap, and Razorpay out of six unicorns in our portfolio. Three, he had already invested. They started investing mid 2011 Agrostar and Ola were first investments.”
Titan Capital Backed 248 Companies, Making 90 Investments in One Year
“And now we are in two 48 companies. So I just checked the number to be disclosed here. So, and last year also we have done some 1992 investments”
Bipin Shah: Fleetx, Labelbox, and Teachmint Will Cross $100M ARR
“Companies which I see will be like grossing more than a hundred million dollars in next five years, three years, or 10 years. I think we are very sure about companies like Hello Messenger Labelbox FleetX. I have made a note. And again in SaaS, if we can see th…”
Shah: Titan Capital evaluates 3,500 to 4,000 startup pitches annually
“So if we combine all of them, then it's definitely around 3504 thousand, definitely, because we have a good pool of interns also, and it's their responsibility to keep going through them.”
Shah: Titan Capital invests in one to three of ten weekly meetings
“If I meet 10 companies a week, we end up investing two. Maybe I would be discussing with Kunal and Rohit, maybe three or four companies. Out of 10, I am meeting a week. And out of those four, we end up investing in one to two or three, depending on whether the…”
Shah: Titan Capital avoids director seats, preferring silent observer status
“In fact, Titan has thesis to taught or to in fact, not join any board as director also. We generally join as observer and we remain very silent.”
Shah: Titan Capital focuses partner bandwidth on bottom 50% of portfolio
“Our thesis is to focus on, to be frank bottom 50% companies in portfolio.”
Bipin Shah: Titan Capital has seen around 22-23 shutdowns or principal-only returns
“So if considering first case and second case or third case, there would be around definitely 22 to 23 companies Yeah, which would have sat down, or we would have just got the principal back, combining both of them. It will be around 22.”
Shah: Titan Capital deploys only proprietary capital from Kunal and Rohit
“We are not a fund structure where we have external capital. This is purely Kunal and Rohit prop proprietary capital. And so that is the reason we had to keep exiting from mature companies.”
Shah: Titan Capital's 2021 seed checks averaged under 90-100 lakhs INR
“Last year, all the seed checks we wrote were ranging anywhere between 50 K to maximum 300 K. We have done 300 K also, but average would be around, you can assume average would be around maybe 9000 lakhs maximum, not more than that.”
Shah: Titan Capital's average seed valuation was under $2M through 2019
“Our average valuation at which we were writing checks used to be 13, 14 crore rupees. Okay. Not more than two million dollar average valuation till 2019 calendar year.”
Shah: High-quality Indian seed valuations jumped to $8-10M pre-money
“Valuation for obvious deals has gone from two, three million dollar to eight to ten million dollar free money.”
Ola took four to five months to raise its initial angel round
“His job profile in 2011 12 was to create presentation for Ola to raise their seed round, and their office was in Dreams Mall Bombay. And I used to discuss with him, they, it took them four, five months to raise their, that Indian engine network, Rihani R. Khan…”
Shah: Seed partners can write 50+ checks yearly, Series A only 7-10
“If you are a series AVC, then in a year you can write, each partner cannot write more than Seven, eight, 10 checks because you have to, you have limited bandwidth and all those dynamics, but as a seed investor partner I can write 50 plus checks and I can alloc…”
Shah: Kunal Bahl's paranoia and restlessness drive constant startup innovation
“What I have learned, especially from Kunal he's very paranoid and it's very difficult to calm him and stabilize him. You know, he, he's always thinking that he's missing something and he figures it out and then he comes up with a lot of new ideas.”