Apr 5, 2024 · 1h 13m · neon-show
Bihar’s Decline, Working With Lalu Prasad & The 1984 Bokaro Riots - IPS Manjari’s Career Stories
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Pioneering IPS officer Manjari Jaruhar reflects on breaking gender barriers in Indian law enforcement, managing major crises like the 1984 Bokaro riots, resisting extrajudicial violence, and witnessing Bihar's complex socio-political transformation.
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Siddhartha as informed peer 3.5 Guest teaching 3.0 Guest disagreement 1.3 Siddhartha pushing back 1.5
speaking balance: gold is Siddhartha, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 43:08 Rejecting the framing of stopping kidnappings
Jaruhar firmly declines the host's premise that she eradicated kidnapping in Bihar, stating she only handled isolated cases before moving to the central government.
Hardest push from Siddhartha ▶ 22:46 Pushing back on police media portrayalThe host directly challenges the guest's positive depiction of the police force by asserting that 'there can't be smoke without fire' regarding widespread misconduct.
Biggest teaching moment ▶ 41:32 Clarifying Ganga vs Garga river geographyJaruhar straightforwardly corrects the host's factual assumption about night raids across the Ganges, explaining the actual geography of the Garga stream in Bokaro.
Siddhartha holds their own ▶ 1:10:06 Host cites female workforce participation comparative dataThe host introduces external labor statistics showing India lagging behind Bangladesh to underscore the broader societal value of Jaruhar's trailblazing career.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
| Chapter | Topic | Siddhartha as informed peer | Guest teaching | Guest disagreement | Siddhartha pushing back | Why |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Breaking Gender Barriers in the Bihar Police Bureaucracy | 3 | 2 | 1 | 1 | The host warmly explores Jaruhar's background as Bihar's first woman IPS officer, referencing specifics from her memoir like the DGP checking Kiran Bedi's file. Jaruhar shares her experiences facing institutional skepticism without friction. | |
| Managing the Aftermath of the 1984 Bokaro Riots | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 | The host asks detailed questions regarding Jaruhar's handling of the 1984 anti-Sikh riots in Bokaro and the writing of her book. Jaruhar gently clarifies that she wrote her memoir entirely from memory rather than retrieving archived case diaries. | |
| Police Accountability, Command Discipline, and Combating Crime | 4 | 4 | 2 | 3 | The host challenges Jaruhar on public perceptions of police corruption, pushing that 'there is no smoke without fire.' Jaruhar educates the host on command discipline and argues that bad apples account for only around ten percent of the force. | |
| Political Resistance and the Bhagalpur Blindings Investigation | 4 | 3 | 1 | 2 | The host questions Jaruhar about the infamous Bhagalpur blindings case and political bribery tropes from popular cinema. Jaruhar explains the procedural reality of the investigation and the legal constraints around evidence. | |
| Tackling Kidnappings and Analyzing Bihar's Socioeconomic Decline | 4 | 5 | 2 | 2 | Jaruhar politely corrects the host's mistaken premise about raiding across the river Ganga, clarifying it was the Garga stream in Bokaro. She also details the systemic causes of Bihar's administrative and educational collapse. | |
| Confronting Chief Minister Lalu Prasad Yadav Over Extrajudicial Killings | 3 | 2 | 1 | 1 | The host asks Jaruhar to clarify the slang term 'bumping off' and prompts her on working with Chief Minister Lalu Prasad Yadav. Jaruhar recounts standing her ground against extrajudicial encounter killings. | |
| Leading Central Forces and Modernizing Indian Policing | 3 | 2 | 1 | 1 | The host prompts Jaruhar on her transition to central paramilitary forces and the modernization of Indian policing. Jaruhar details establishing strict discipline in CISF and comparing state versus central decision-making speed. | |
| Championing Women in Uniform and Concluding Reflections | 4 | 3 | 1 | 1 | The host brings in macro labor statistics on women in the workforce, comparing India to Bangladesh. Jaruhar elaborates on specific reservation targets and the actual low percentages in state versus central police forces. |
Statements from this episode (16)
In the 1960s, Bihar was a peaceful state that prioritized education
“Bihar in the 1960 was a very, very peaceful state, a very well administered state, and there was a lot of emphasis on education.”
In 1976, Bihar had zero female uniformed police officers
“Go back to 76. There was no woman in a khaki uniform in Bihar. There were a few lady constables who were appointed on compassionate grounds, and they wore sarees, and they do very small jobs in offices and all, and that number was also miniscule.”
Skipping early field postings permanently typecasts police officers
“In the police, if you don't do a field job in your initial years, then you are considered like a desk job. You know, you would be considered a officer who has mostly stayed in the office.”
Jaruhar believes her presence would have prevented the 1984 Bokaro riots
“For a long time, for a very long time that if I had been there, this would not have happened.”
Ninety percent of police officers are sincere while ten percent cause issues
“90 is good, and they are doing their work, and it's only 10% who bring the bad name.”
Politicians never asked Jaruhar to do anything illegal during her career
“In my own experience with politicians has been that I have never been Asked to do something wrong.”
Bihar police blinded nine people in a single night in Bhagalpur
“When they did too many, and in one night they blinded nine people, there was a big hue and cry, and then everything came out in the open, and it came to the parliament, and then a committee had to be instituted. To inquire into these blinding cases.”
Organized kidnapping for ransom surged in Bihar around 1994
“When I became DIG in 94, these kidnappings had just started happening, kidnapping for ransom.”
Prioritizing caste over ability drove Bihar's historical socioeconomic decline
“I think caste became a very big issue later on, that everything became caste oriented. And your caste was more important than your abilities, I think.”
Bihar's severe brain drain fueled its socioeconomic decline
“People started leaving the state, and mostly for education, and anybody and everybody could get out, could afford, they went out to study, and once they went out to study, they never came back.”
Lalu Prasad Yadav was uniquely hands-on at crime scenes as Chief Minister
“Earlier, I had not seen a chief minister arriving at a crime spot, arriving to handle a law and order situation. He was like that. And even giving instructions.”
Indian police solve major crimes almost on par with Western nations
“I would say we are almost at par. We are almost all major heinous crimes in the country we are solving these days I find.”
Bihar police have fallen far behind other Indian states in advancements
“I think we are already pushed back a lot in Bihar. I traveled to other places. What is the kind of stuff which people are doing in other states, the kind of work which women police officers are doing. It is amazing. It is amazing. All kinds of things for prote…”