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question and answer was assessed with names hidden, the host's own answers included, on
four things from 1 to 5:
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mix (30/30/25/15) is the exchange score. A person's published score averages their exchange
scores on raw tape only, at least 8 of them, shrunk toward the cohort mean.
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Answered raw tape
D 5 · C 5 · P 5 · Cm 4 4.85
Q And then you were with Mint, and then you were famously with Facebook. Um, were you cash poor for a long time?
A No, I, I've never been broke. I had a million dollars at 30 from day jobs. I think that's kind of, like, not recognized by most people. Meaning, one, I was super cheap. Right? So I lived on floors for a year. That's a good way to save money. Lived at my mom's house. Lived at my aunt's house. So just as, as cheap as possible. I did get two paydays. One payday was from the Gambit payments company. So I think I made around 350,000. That was payments for Farmville and all those annoying games. Uh, and then the conferences. So those Plus just being really conservative with the cash. Like it was about a million dollar liquid around 30.
AI assessment note: “No, I, I've never been broke. I had a million dollars at 30”
Answered raw tape
D 5 · C 5 · P 4 · Cm 4 4.60
Q That's sick. And I remember you doing it years ago, just like on your phone. It was kind of lame. It wasn't lame. It was just like you weren't trying. And then like you started trying two years ago, I think, right?
A Yeah, that was, it was an interesting journey. When COVID hit two years ago, I was just shirtless at home with my iPhone, and I was like, I just felt good about what was going on, and I felt like I could help, and so I just started recording on my phone and uploading it. And so, you know, and all the people that are listening to your show, a lot of them want to start businesses. It's like, just do now, not how. You know, something Mitchell and I talk about, which is just get going. So I just uploaded that, and from there now, there's a team of, I don't know, maybe six people. We'll spend about half a million dollars on just the team this year. You know, from just me doing shirtless in my house talking about how to get your business going, your confidence.
AI assessment note: “When COVID hit two years ago, I was just shirtless at home with my iPhone”
Answered raw tape
D 5 · C 5 · P 4 · Cm 4 4.60
Q No, not that bad. Yeah, like, what's the conversion of monopoly money to USD? No, I think it's, I think it's almost one to one. Um, what, uh, so are you bullish on your into Chrome shit, Chrome plugins?
A I've pulled, nah, I'm not as excited about that. I think what's, what's interesting is like, what are the areas that are either super early on, uh, that like savvy people haven't gotten into? So like, for example, one of the older stories for me was Facebook newsfeed ads. So look for these ad channels or places that not a lot of people are, like, kind of all paying attention to. When newsfeed came out, no one was doing it, and we went bonkers on it, and that was a huge driver at AppSumo for a lot of our growth, because it was just so much cheaper, because not everyone, if you're paying, if you're playing in the market, you're going to pay market rate, and that's not how you're going to work.
AI assessment note: “nah, I'm not as excited about that. I think what's, what's interesting is”
Answered raw tape
D 4 · C 4 · P 4 · Cm 3 3.85
Q Do you feel like an idiot though on the side of the street doing this face where you're like hands on your head and you're like freaking out about the 2022 stock market and how it's going to go down?
A Well, I think, I mean, the other thing with, no, it's honestly enjoyable and I find it kind of like a science. It's like a game where like, it's a game worrying than a science. Like how do I win this game? And doing that, it gives me an advantage. So hell yeah, I want to do it. And I find it enjoyable. I think, you know, topics, you should also just kind of consider the topics you're putting out on YouTube. Like, how much do authors make? It's not something that I think people are really like going to immediately stop and drop everything to watch, but like Solana billionaires right now, crypto and NFT and stuff like that and how to get rich is always popular on YouTube.
AI assessment note: “no, it's honestly enjoyable and I find it kind of like a science.”
Answered raw tape
D 4 · C 3 · P 4 · Cm 3 3.55
Q And so you, you send that in there like, cool. You go, what was your first impression walking into the office? I guess, what, what was it like back then? Cause what, and what year was this for Facebook?
A This was 2005. I think one of the things for people out there, if you, Want to get a job, which I think could be cool, is just go look at what you're using all the time. You know, if you listen to a podcast, you're working on a product. To be clear, though, it is work. People think that at AppSumo, they're like, I'm gonna come party with you guys. Like, you realize like, 90% of our day is sitting on computer working. 10%, yeah, we do a lot of cool stuff. But, um, when I came in there, it was chaotic. I mean, I posted one of these photos, it was a good memory, where like, there's cables everywhere, the desks were kind of all over the place. Um, but it felt like there's something special happening. It felt like there's like, holy shit, we're, we're on a mission that no one else is a part of and we know where this is going. And then we have this, this truly fearless leader that, that seemed like a savant. That was, he's definitely awkward as hell. But, uh, I was really impressed about, you know, what he was able to do and how big he was thinking about this company would, could be.
AI assessment note: “when I came in there, it was chaotic. I mean... cables everywhere”
Redirected raw tape
D 1 · C 4 · P 3 · Cm 3 2.70
Q lot of the doomsday stuff, they assume that you live in like the country. And I'm like, no, I need like the urban version of this. So like, tell me like, how do I store water? How do I, uh, like, like, should I have a gun or should I not have a gun? What type of generator? What do you use the generator for? All that type of stuff.
A Yeah, I mean, I think coming back to what we're talking about, it's like with mud water and, you know, business ideas. It's just like, one, just go to the things that you need help with. Right. And then just start thinking, all right, well, how, you know, how do I do that today? Right. So you, if for this doomsday idea to go hit up you, I hit up Neville, I hit other friends in Austin and say, Hey, I'm starting to put together a thing. Do you want something like this? And see if I can get anyone to buy into it before I start. And then from there, if that works, then maybe launch a Shopify site, uh, or just start doing YouTube content around that.
AI assessment note: “coming back to what we're talking about, it's like with mud water and, you know, business ideas”
