The Exchanges

Q So like, just, but just taking that intensity to engineering, some serendipity. I kind of love that. Uh, before we leave, what do you just leave me with? What are you currently nerding out about?

A Um, I've been spending a lot of time thinking about like cancer and oncology. I've been thinking a lot about, um, longevity and, you know, we're still funding a lot of the research with Mike Levin, who's my favorite scientist of all time. He's the bioelectricity ninja. And, um, I've been nerding out on this a bit more because, um, I was mentioning to you before we got here, I've been in a bit of a sad mood this week. I had a friend die of cancer a few days ago, um, never smoked a cigarette in her life and had stage four lung cancer. And, um, and it's just more examples of this in my life. Every year or two, I lose a friend like that. And, and so it's not necessarily gonna make money. It's not gonna improve my lifestyle, but I'm just like, I gotta nerd out on it.

AI assessment note: “I've been spending a lot of time thinking about like cancer and oncology.”

Q That's amazing. And so, um, so you do that. What is the, like, uh, you know, what's the product or what are you guys actually building?

A We are building, uh, several companies under this whole code. So the first company we created, um, is called Seljabu, and it's essentially a company that will help overcome drug resistance. And, um, how do I make this more concrete? If you're taking, uh, drugs for your leukemia, or you're taking chemo drugs, It might be effective in work for wealth. You have lots of drugs that are effective in work, but then one day they stop working, and when they stop working, um, unfortunately, there are sometimes no other viable options for the patient, which means they're gonna then die, but a month late, a month earlier, the drugs were working, and they were fine, right? So that's one company, there's another company that's developing, um, It's programmable human biobots, and in fact, this got, you know, there's an article about this in Nature as of today, and that company is called Anthrobots.

AI assessment note: “We are building, uh, several companies under this whole code.”

Q And so you, um, what, what do you, where do you leave that meeting? You say, all right, what are we going to do next?

A We say, okay, what are we going to get done to advance this between this week and next week? Um, and we just get very specific and it's like, all right, like person A, you're doing these five things. Person B, you're doing these five things. And the next step might be like, okay, let's just go call like for Holy Health. Um, the next step was let's just call some chiropractors and ask them, um, if they, you know, figure out who accepts insurance and who doesn't and why. And then ask them, why don't they plug into these existing companies that should be that doing something similar? So a lot of it's just like, what are the questions we're curious about?

AI assessment note: “We say, okay, what are we going to get done to advance this”

Q do it. Like, you know, I don't know if the, the growth test tube may be in a vat type of thing. Like, I don't know if that's, like, just a dream, or there's actually people working on the, that that might be scientifically possible or practical. Can you tell me about some parts of the future that I should be excited about, or my kids might get to experience?

A I actually think that is very viable, the test two babies. Um, I know of, I've talked to several scientists who are doing the portion to, like, for example, let's say you wanted to be the mother of a child, not the father, and we could take your genetic material and create an egg out of that. I think that we're going to see that within the next five years. And then the converting, you know, having a artificial embryo generated avatar style, that's a little harder to do. I, I've met scientists who've been able to, um, get to maybe six weeks before the whole thing falls apart and that will get better and better over time. Um, but the implications there are huge. Like for women, imagine not having to deal with this. And, uh, not having to do egg extraction, um, if you're, you know, if you're having trouble conceiving. And then what's also realistic, I think, is extending our lives by 30%. I think we need to be prepared to live till we're a 120 or longer. And right now, the upper limit in our head is, oh, I'll probably die when I'm 90. We're not thinking about the exponential rate of change here. And I am talking to a lot of longevity scientists. I'm seeing the data. It's compelling. I think we're going to live longer, and we need a plan for that future.

AI assessment note: “I actually think that is very viable, the test two babies.”

Q So you're like, I'm playing video games. I want to scratch my own itch, be able to play my own video games and, and like, you know, pay off that, buy some clothes. Were you cool in school? Were you, like, a smart, popular kid? Or who were you?

A Total geek loser. I was so lame. I So I had no friends. I went to the computer club at my high school, um, which is all the nerds who also had no other friends. So you have to be friends with each other. They were making fun of me and they were bullying me. I was literally on the bottom of the bottom. Like that's how I knew it was really bad. I'm like, okay, I have to get out of here as soon as possible. So I ended up dropping out of high school. Ah, halfway through my sophomore year, but I got into this really cool college program called Simon's Rock. College, you know, Simon's Rock and going to college really, it really deceived me because I was born in high school. I wasn't doing well. I was, I was getting terrible grades because I was uninterested and because I had no friends and I felt like I couldn't relate to anyone. All other girls, um, and guys just like were interested in things that I had no interest in. So when you said, hey, I would love to create this school for people like us, I just thought, holy cow, I want to create that school too. We can make this happen. Let's do it. Let's brainstorm it. Let's set aside some time another day or let's just go meet up for dinner. I'll come wherever you want, any day you want. I will, I will fly to you and we will put together, you know, a game plan for what this would look like and how we would manifest this without having to…

AI assessment note: “Total geek loser. I was so lame. I So I had no friends.”

Q I don't even, what is that? What is that word you just said? What are you doing?

A Exosome IVs. And, uh, yeah, I mean, so it's still, the science on it's still a little, um, you know, up in the air, so I just want to be, you know, good on the disclosure there. Um, So it's not necessarily the fountain of youth, but there's the belief that, you know, if you're, if you're doing, if you're bringing in stem cells, you know, through an IV, um, it will help you, uh, lower your biological age, give you more energy and help you with, um, with your autophagy. So basically your body's ability to get rid of, uh, old and dying cells. And if you do that, then the thought is you're going to have more energy. More energy means more brain power. More brain power means more ability to manifest and create great things in the world. And so this is another area where let's say you were able to improve your mental function and your energy by 25%. By the way, if you do all these things, you could probably do like better than 25%. Is that worth 15,000 dollars a year, which is roughly how much I spend on this. Maybe I spend 20 or 25 grand on it. It's not a lot of money. You don't need to pull a Brian Johnson where you're spending a million dollars a year to get 80% of the results. This is the eighty-twenty rule of Brian Johnson.

AI assessment note: “Exosome IVs. And, uh, yeah, I mean, so it's still”