Apr 5, 2021 · 52m · my-first-million

MFM #167: Answering Your Questions On Investments, Businesses and Life

Shaan Puri · 30m spoken Sam Parr · 14m spoken Intro/Outro Singer · 18s spoken Outro Singer · 13s spoken
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In this Q&A episode of My First Million, Sam Parr and Shaan Puri answer audience questions spanning personal investment portfolios, balancing executive careers with side projects, aggressive productivity and delegation strategies, and the personal operating philosophies and insecurities that shape their entrepreneurial journeys.

How this conversation actually went

Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. The hosts hold 98.1% of the talking time here. How this is scored →

The hosts as informed peer 5.0 Guest teaching 0.0 Guest disagreement 0.0 The hosts pushing back 0.4
05100:0015:0030:0045:000:34–3:21 · The hosts as informed peer 3/10 Trung Phan's Viral Content and Work Ethic Sam and Shaan discuss Trung Phan's viral internet content and work habits. The conversation is collaborative host banter about content curation without external guests or conflict.3:21–16:16 · The hosts as informed peer 6/10 Personal Investment Portfolios and Money Mindsets The hosts break down their personal asset allocation, risk tolerances, and philosophy on discussing wealth transparently. Both hosts draw extensively on their own startup liquidity and investment history.16:16–21:25 · The hosts as informed peer 5/10 Shaan's Rolling Fund Update and the Suli Story Shaan gives an update on his AngelList rolling fund mechanics and reflects on aggressive venture investing lessons learned from Chris Sacca and Suli.21:25–27:22 · The hosts as informed peer 5/10 Passions Beyond Business: Sports and Life Operating Philosophy Sam and Shaan discuss what criteria would make them leave corporate roles to pursue a new venture full-time, contrasting fast iterative projects with long-term compounders.27:22–32:47 · The hosts as informed peer 6/10 Managing Side Projects and Corporate Executive Balance Shaan details his operational framework for managing corporate duties at Twitch alongside side projects by leveraging delegation, carry compensation, and clear output-based expectations.32:47–39:30 · The hosts as informed peer 5/10 Analyzing Dictators, Persuasion, and Flawed Figures The hosts dissect the persuasion techniques, propaganda, and drive of historical dictators and controversial high performers while explicitly acknowledging moral nuance.39:30–44:18 · The hosts as informed peer 6/10 The Pros and Cons of Hiring Friends in Business A caller asks whether to hire close friends. Sam strongly advises against mixing business and friendship, while Shaan offers a counter-framework of hiring only competent friends with upfront ground rules.44:18–48:31 · The hosts as informed peer 4/10 Personal Flaws, Intellectual Intimidation, and Insecurities Both hosts answer a question regarding personal insecurities, with Sam focusing on intellectual intimidation and speed over depth, and Shaan reflecting on self-filtering and impact.48:31–52:22 · The hosts as informed peer 5/10 Future Live Tours and Creative Event Hosting Concepts The episode wraps up with ideas for post-pandemic live tour events, as Sam shares past experiential event formats like Pizza & 40s, Anti-MBA, and 2X.0:34–3:21 · Guest teaching 0/10 Trung Phan's Viral Content and Work Ethic Sam and Shaan discuss Trung Phan's viral internet content and work habits. The conversation is collaborative host banter about content curation without external guests or conflict.3:21–16:16 · Guest teaching 0/10 Personal Investment Portfolios and Money Mindsets The hosts break down their personal asset allocation, risk tolerances, and philosophy on discussing wealth transparently. Both hosts draw extensively on their own startup liquidity and investment history.16:16–21:25 · Guest teaching 0/10 Shaan's Rolling Fund Update and the Suli Story Shaan gives an update on his AngelList rolling fund mechanics and reflects on aggressive venture investing lessons learned from Chris Sacca and Suli.21:25–27:22 · Guest teaching 0/10 Passions Beyond Business: Sports and Life Operating Philosophy Sam and Shaan discuss what criteria would make them leave corporate roles to pursue a new venture full-time, contrasting fast iterative projects with long-term compounders.27:22–32:47 · Guest teaching 0/10 Managing Side Projects and Corporate Executive Balance Shaan details his operational framework for managing corporate duties at Twitch alongside side projects by leveraging delegation, carry compensation, and clear output-based expectations.32:47–39:30 · Guest teaching 0/10 Analyzing Dictators, Persuasion, and Flawed Figures The hosts dissect the persuasion techniques, propaganda, and drive of historical dictators and controversial high performers while explicitly acknowledging moral nuance.39:30–44:18 · Guest teaching 0/10 The Pros and Cons of Hiring Friends in Business A caller asks whether to hire close friends. Sam strongly advises against mixing business and friendship, while Shaan offers a counter-framework of hiring only competent friends with upfront ground rules.44:18–48:31 · Guest teaching 0/10 Personal Flaws, Intellectual Intimidation, and Insecurities Both hosts answer a question regarding personal insecurities, with Sam focusing on intellectual intimidation and speed over depth, and Shaan reflecting on self-filtering and impact.48:31–52:22 · Guest teaching 0/10 Future Live Tours and Creative Event Hosting Concepts The episode wraps up with ideas for post-pandemic live tour events, as Sam shares past experiential event formats like Pizza & 40s, Anti-MBA, and 2X.0:34–3:21 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Trung Phan's Viral Content and Work Ethic Sam and Shaan discuss Trung Phan's viral internet content and work habits. The conversation is collaborative host banter about content curation without external guests or conflict.3:21–16:16 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Personal Investment Portfolios and Money Mindsets The hosts break down their personal asset allocation, risk tolerances, and philosophy on discussing wealth transparently. Both hosts draw extensively on their own startup liquidity and investment history.16:16–21:25 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Shaan's Rolling Fund Update and the Suli Story Shaan gives an update on his AngelList rolling fund mechanics and reflects on aggressive venture investing lessons learned from Chris Sacca and Suli.21:25–27:22 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Passions Beyond Business: Sports and Life Operating Philosophy Sam and Shaan discuss what criteria would make them leave corporate roles to pursue a new venture full-time, contrasting fast iterative projects with long-term compounders.27:22–32:47 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Managing Side Projects and Corporate Executive Balance Shaan details his operational framework for managing corporate duties at Twitch alongside side projects by leveraging delegation, carry compensation, and clear output-based expectations.32:47–39:30 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Analyzing Dictators, Persuasion, and Flawed Figures The hosts dissect the persuasion techniques, propaganda, and drive of historical dictators and controversial high performers while explicitly acknowledging moral nuance.39:30–44:18 · Guest disagreement 0/10 The Pros and Cons of Hiring Friends in Business A caller asks whether to hire close friends. Sam strongly advises against mixing business and friendship, while Shaan offers a counter-framework of hiring only competent friends with upfront ground rules.44:18–48:31 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Personal Flaws, Intellectual Intimidation, and Insecurities Both hosts answer a question regarding personal insecurities, with Sam focusing on intellectual intimidation and speed over depth, and Shaan reflecting on self-filtering and impact.48:31–52:22 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Future Live Tours and Creative Event Hosting Concepts The episode wraps up with ideas for post-pandemic live tour events, as Sam shares past experiential event formats like Pizza & 40s, Anti-MBA, and 2X.0:34–3:21 · The hosts pushing back 0/10 Trung Phan's Viral Content and Work Ethic Sam and Shaan discuss Trung Phan's viral internet content and work habits. The conversation is collaborative host banter about content curation without external guests or conflict.3:21–16:16 · The hosts pushing back 1/10 Personal Investment Portfolios and Money Mindsets The hosts break down their personal asset allocation, risk tolerances, and philosophy on discussing wealth transparently. Both hosts draw extensively on their own startup liquidity and investment history.16:16–21:25 · The hosts pushing back 0/10 Shaan's Rolling Fund Update and the Suli Story Shaan gives an update on his AngelList rolling fund mechanics and reflects on aggressive venture investing lessons learned from Chris Sacca and Suli.21:25–27:22 · The hosts pushing back 0/10 Passions Beyond Business: Sports and Life Operating Philosophy Sam and Shaan discuss what criteria would make them leave corporate roles to pursue a new venture full-time, contrasting fast iterative projects with long-term compounders.27:22–32:47 · The hosts pushing back 0/10 Managing Side Projects and Corporate Executive Balance Shaan details his operational framework for managing corporate duties at Twitch alongside side projects by leveraging delegation, carry compensation, and clear output-based expectations.32:47–39:30 · The hosts pushing back 0/10 Analyzing Dictators, Persuasion, and Flawed Figures The hosts dissect the persuasion techniques, propaganda, and drive of historical dictators and controversial high performers while explicitly acknowledging moral nuance.39:30–44:18 · The hosts pushing back 3/10 The Pros and Cons of Hiring Friends in Business A caller asks whether to hire close friends. Sam strongly advises against mixing business and friendship, while Shaan offers a counter-framework of hiring only competent friends with upfront ground rules.44:18–48:31 · The hosts pushing back 0/10 Personal Flaws, Intellectual Intimidation, and Insecurities Both hosts answer a question regarding personal insecurities, with Sam focusing on intellectual intimidation and speed over depth, and Shaan reflecting on self-filtering and impact.48:31–52:22 · The hosts pushing back 0/10 Future Live Tours and Creative Event Hosting Concepts The episode wraps up with ideas for post-pandemic live tour events, as Sam shares past experiential event formats like Pizza & 40s, Anti-MBA, and 2X.

speaking balance: gold is the hosts, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

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Sharpest disagreement ▶ 39:31 Caller raises concern over hiring friends

The caller expresses vulnerability and skepticism about the conventional idea of hiring friends, asking how to avoid ruining personal relationships over business.

Hardest push from the hosts ▶ 39:53 Sam firmly rejects hiring friends or fraternizing with staff

Sam forcefully rejects the notion of working with close friends, arguing managers should maintain strict professional distance and leave gatherings when alcohol appears.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 41:10 Shaan reframes the hiring friends dilemma around competence

Shaan counters Sam's strict prohibition by presenting a concrete operational playbook: hiring competent friends with explicit communication contracts up front.

The host holds their own ▶ 28:50 Shaan explains how he manages multi-project operational leverage

Shaan articulates his management playbook, demonstrating how he funds teams via carry and reorganizes time blocks to operate multiple high-output initiatives simultaneously.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicThe hosts as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementThe hosts pushing backWhy
Trung Phan's Viral Content and Work Ethic 3000 Sam and Shaan discuss Trung Phan's viral internet content and work habits. The conversation is collaborative host banter about content curation without external guests or conflict.
Personal Investment Portfolios and Money Mindsets 6001 The hosts break down their personal asset allocation, risk tolerances, and philosophy on discussing wealth transparently. Both hosts draw extensively on their own startup liquidity and investment history.
Shaan's Rolling Fund Update and the Suli Story 5000 Shaan gives an update on his AngelList rolling fund mechanics and reflects on aggressive venture investing lessons learned from Chris Sacca and Suli.
Passions Beyond Business: Sports and Life Operating Philosophy 5000 Sam and Shaan discuss what criteria would make them leave corporate roles to pursue a new venture full-time, contrasting fast iterative projects with long-term compounders.
Managing Side Projects and Corporate Executive Balance 6000 Shaan details his operational framework for managing corporate duties at Twitch alongside side projects by leveraging delegation, carry compensation, and clear output-based expectations.
Analyzing Dictators, Persuasion, and Flawed Figures 5000 The hosts dissect the persuasion techniques, propaganda, and drive of historical dictators and controversial high performers while explicitly acknowledging moral nuance.
The Pros and Cons of Hiring Friends in Business 6003 A caller asks whether to hire close friends. Sam strongly advises against mixing business and friendship, while Shaan offers a counter-framework of hiring only competent friends with upfront ground rules.
Personal Flaws, Intellectual Intimidation, and Insecurities 4000 Both hosts answer a question regarding personal insecurities, with Sam focusing on intellectual intimidation and speed over depth, and Shaan reflecting on self-filtering and impact.
Future Live Tours and Creative Event Hosting Concepts 5000 The episode wraps up with ideas for post-pandemic live tour events, as Sam shares past experiential event formats like Pizza & 40s, Anti-MBA, and 2X.

Statements from this episode (16)

Assertion Partly supported
Puri: Trung Phan created OnlyPhans strictly for people named Phan
“So he has only fans, but he spells fans P H A N like his last name. And it's just a network for only people with the last name fan.”
Shaan Puri Apr 5, 2021 ▶ 2:53
Disclosure
Sam Parr plans to angel invest $250K to $500K over 18 months
“I'm going to invest around 250 to 500,000 dollars in the next probably 18 months in startups.”
Sam Parr Apr 5, 2021 ▶ 4:49
Disclosure
Sam Parr reveals 90% of his net worth is in S&P 500
“Well, no, I own way more just S&P 500 than I do HubSpot and Airbnb. But I would say that 90% of my net worth is in the S&P 500.”
Sam Parr Apr 5, 2021 ▶ 5:24
Insight
Shaan Puri: Tech investors should place small initial bets then double down
“So what I've seen is in technology, The winners get really, really big. And so you kind of want to like play small bets initially and then follow on really hard. And like when you see something that actually works, be really bold in the way you approach it.”
Shaan Puri Apr 5, 2021 ▶ 15:48
Disclosure
Shaan Puri must deploy $1M per quarter from his venture rolling fund
“Now that I have to deploy a million dollars a quarter, I actually have to carve out more time. I have to like consciously go and invest in more companies.”
Shaan Puri Apr 5, 2021 ▶ 16:46
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Puri: Zach referred 22 companies into Y Combinator batch
“For this week, this year's YC batch, you know, Zach himself referred in 22 of the companies. He was the number one, I think, refer into YC.”
Shaan Puri Apr 5, 2021 ▶ 17:02
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Sulaiman Ali aggressively bought pre-IPO Facebook stock after his app sale
“He basically took a bunch of that money and just plot. He was like Chris Saka. He aggressively started buying up Facebook stock back then before it was public.”
Shaan Puri Apr 5, 2021 ▶ 20:38
Insight
Parr: You can only dedicate your life to a venture 3-4 times
“I don't like starting lots of little stuff. I prefer to dedicate my life to something. And I'm very cautious about what I'm willing to do that with, because you probably can only do that three to four times in your life.”
Sam Parr Apr 5, 2021 ▶ 24:25
Disclosure
Shaan Puri plans to build a company to compound for 40 years
“My thirties are about building a family and then it's building a project I don't want to sell, which is basically like, I totally agree. How do I build my next thing? Same thing you said that this is something I want to do. I'm not doing it because it's the be…”
Shaan Puri Apr 5, 2021 ▶ 25:51
Disclosure
Shaan Puri spends $200K to $300K annually on side project personnel
“So I do have a, you know, significant burn, I would say it's like. 200 to 300,000 dollars a year of like People cost to do these things.”
Shaan Puri Apr 5, 2021 ▶ 30:14
Insight
Puri: The best startup founders are obsessively wired maniacs
“That's the kind of like maniac you want being a founder of these companies. It's like somebody who is Wired a little bit differently.”
Shaan Puri Apr 5, 2021 ▶ 37:26
Insight
Sam Parr: Managers and CEOs should avoid being friends with employees
“If you're a manager, you shouldn't be friends with your employees. If you're a business owner or CEO, I actually don't think I think you should be friendly. But I think you should be really careful about being friends with your employees.”
Sam Parr Apr 5, 2021 ▶ 40:14
Insight
Sam Parr: Managers should leave work gatherings immediately once alcohol appears
“Even if they're if you're worth your coworkers, and anytime in the evening, And alcohol shows up. I think you should leave. I don't even think you should be in the same room.”
Sam Parr Apr 5, 2021 ▶ 40:31
Insight
Shaan Puri: Hiring friends works if they are competent and expectations are clear
“The saving grace for me has always been, I only have hired my competent friends and competent friends do two things. One is they perform. So you don't have this, you're not just hiring a buddy because you're your buddy. You're hiring this person because they'r…”
Shaan Puri Apr 5, 2021 ▶ 42:23
Disclosure
Sam Parr admits feeling insecure around Stanford graduates and a16z partners
“I'm insecure. That I like I didn't go to Stanford or like a fancy school. And when I meet people in the in crowd, like when we meet guys like Andrew Chen, who works in Andreessen Horowitz, I'm like, dude, like, I kind of want to be in the in crowd, but like, I…”
Sam Parr Apr 5, 2021 ▶ 45:14
Opinion
Shaan Puri: Silicon Valley networking events are boring and surface-level
“Cause I've been to a lot of Silicon Valley networking events are boring as shit. You don't want to go. And when people go, they're all like surface level level. Like they, you know, it's not a fun place to be. They don't let their guard down.”
Shaan Puri Apr 5, 2021 ▶ 50:07
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