Feb 11, 2025 · 52m · my-first-million
The insane story of Blake Scholl: the high school dropout who’s building supersonic jets
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Shaan Puri and Sam Parr examine the concept of 'high agency' in entrepreneurship through the extraordinary stories of Boom Supersonic's Blake Scholl, ZURU's Nick Mowbray, and Fly E-Bike's Andy. The episode explores how extreme ambition, scrappiness, and bold dealmaking allow unconventional founders to build massive global enterprises.
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Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. The hosts hold 99.6% of the talking time here. How this is scored →
The hosts as informed peer 5.2 Guest teaching 1.7 Guest disagreement 1.2 The hosts pushing back 1.2
speaking balance: gold is the hosts, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 28:01 Shaan critiques Sam's obsession with downsides
Shaan gently calls out Sam's habit of focusing on negative realities and argues that founders sometimes need delusional optimism to succeed.
Hardest push from the hosts ▶ 28:37 Sam defends his grounded questioning styleSam counters Shaan by explaining that sugarcoating the founder journey causes entrepreneurs to feel like failures when they encounter unavoidable struggles.
Biggest teaching moment ▶ 24:36 Shaan details Blake Scholl's Branson askShaan educates Sam on the tactical genius of asking Branson only for permission to carry the Virgin logo rather than asking for direct cash.
The host holds their own ▶ 45:35 Sam reveals NYC delivery bike secretsSam demonstrates in-depth personal investigative knowledge about the illegal throttle setups hidden under NYC delivery couriers' handlebar muffs.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
| Chapter | Topic | The hosts as informed peer | Guest teaching | Guest disagreement | The hosts pushing back | Why |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| The Legend of Boom Supersonic's $5 Billion Demo Day Pitch | 4 | 2 | 1 | 1 | Shaan introduces the incredible story of Blake Scholl and Boom Supersonic pitching at Y Combinator. Sam chimes in recalling when he passed on investing in the company due to how absurd building a supersonic commercial jet sounded. | |
| Sponsor Message: HubSpot for Startups Playbook | 5 | 2 | 1 | 1 | Shaan breaks down the concept of high agency and walks through Blake's backstory from dropping out of high school to Carnegie Mellon, building Amazon's automated ad-bidding engine, and calculating the economic feasibility of supersonic flight. | |
| Building Boom: Assembling Aerospace Talent and Pitching Richard Branson | 6 | 1 | 1 | 1 | Shaan describes how Blake recruited veteran aerospace talent, built physical models as visual hooks for Demo Day, and cornered Richard Branson to secure the pivotal Virgin LOI. Sam notes a close friend was an early investor and tracks Boom's subsequent United Airlines deal. | |
| Startup Mindset, Inevitable Plateaus, and Embracing the Struggle | 5 | 1 | 2 | 2 | Shaan and Sam discuss startup resilience and mental models. Shaan ribs Sam for always asking guests about the dark downsides of entrepreneurship, prompting Sam to explain that normalizing brutal plateaus and struggle prevents founders from feeling inadequate. | |
| The Relentless Hustle of ZURU Founder Nick Mowbray | 5 | 2 | 1 | 1 | Shaan recounts his interview with Nick Mowbray of ZURU Toys, detailing how Nick bootstrapped a multi-billion-dollar empire living on a dollar a day in China, building crude riverside factories, and fighting lawsuits with a disbarred lawyer. | |
| The Rogue Empire of Fly E-Bike and New York's Delivery Fleet | 6 | 2 | 1 | 1 | Sam takes over the narrative to explain the wild rise of Andy and Fly E-Bike, which supplied 70,000 overpowered bikes to NYC food couriers before going public on NASDAQ inspired by Wolf of Wall Street. |
Statements from this episode (14)
Sam Parr would have passed on investing in Boom Supersonic's early funding
“Yeah I had the opportunity to invest in this company years ago, and I didn't have any money then, but also, I, even if I did, I would have passed on this, because it's a ridiculous proposition.”
Boom Supersonic holds the record with $5B in YC Demo Day LOIs
“Still to this day, nobody's walked into YC Demo Day with five billion dollars worth of letters, letter of intent.”
Blake Scholl ran a $300M Amazon P&L at age 24
“And by the age of 24, he's running a three hundred million dollar P&L inside of Amazon. He's the GM of that business.”
Boom Supersonic poached Gulfstream's former chief engineer as an early hire
“And he hires up something like six to 10 people, one of which he poaches the former chief engineer of Gulfstream.”
Virgin committed to buying 10 Boom planes the night before YC Demo
“In that extra 24 hours, he ends up getting an email from Virgin the night before Demo Day that says, you're allowed to announce, we'll take the first 10 planes, we've got options on them, and through Virgin Galactic, we'll even help you build it.”
Ambitious startup ideas are easier because they attract higher-caliber talent
“Something I've come to believe is that the bigger the idea, the easier it becomes because it motivates you and the people around you, and you attract better people to come work on it.”
Boom Supersonic recently took a down round at a $2B valuation
“I think he had to take a huge down round, and he tweeted out about it, I believe, and I think his most recent valuation was two billion dollars.”
Shaan Puri's unannounced bootstrapped startup reached $10M run rate in year one
“We have this one company we started just a little over a year ago that's just been, like, up and to the right. Like, this company is, I haven't announced it yet, but it's like, Almost a ten million dollar run rate already. Profitable, bootstrapped in one year.”
Shaan Puri calls ZURU's Nick Mowbray the most impressive MFM guest ever
“Out of every guest I've ever had on this podcast, ever, he is the number one most impressive founder that I've ever had on the podcast.”
Toy company ZURU generates several billion in revenue and $1B in profit
“They do a few billion dollars a year in revenue. They do a billion dollars a year in just profit.”
ZURU founder is building an automated house-building factory larger than Tesla's
“He now is building the largest factory in the world, bigger than the Tesla factory, bigger than all that, where robots are going to build houses. Autonomously.”
New York City has 70,000 Uber Eats and DoorDash delivery workers
“There's 70,000 Uber Eats and DoorDash people in New York City, in like the Manhattan and Brooklyn area.”
Fly E-Bike sold 70,000 bikes in four years before its NASDAQ IPO
“But the guy ends up, Andy, selling 70,000 bikes in four years. And a few months ago I think it was in September. He had the audacity to take the company public. And so it goes public on the NASDAQ. And it's I think the ticker is F L E Y.”