Andrew Wilkinson
134 statements across 22 episodes · 49 bullish · 27 bearish · 4 people on the record · first statement Apr 9, 2021 by Andrew Wilkinson · said 147 times in 47 episodes since 2020 · across every show →
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brought up most by Shaan Puri (81), Sam Parr (58), Jeremy Giffon (2), Steph Smith (1), Codie Sanchez (1), Alex Hormozi (1)
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2026 2 mentions in 1 episode
2025 1 mention in 1 episode
2024 53 mentions in 13 episodes 4 per episode
- 5 Genius Business Tactics Turning Broke Authors Into Millionaires
- Data Backed Businesses Guaranteed To Make +$1M From Day 1
- The Cashflow King: “Here’s How I Do It”, Negotiating w/ Jeff Bezos, Elon’s Cracked Rocket
- I Spent 7 Days With The Richest Men In Texas
- Brainstorming +$1M Weird Business Ideas With Morning Brew’s CEO Austin Rief (#543)
- Is This The End Of The Pod?
- 3 Underdog Stories That’ll Get You Inspired This Week
- I Lost Everything Twice… Then Made $26M In 18 Months
- 5 more episodes that year, every mention in 2024 →
2023 56 mentions in 8 episodes 7 per episode
- How To Grow A Small Agency Into A Billion Dollar Company (#414)
- Our 2020 Predictions For OpenAI Came True… Here’s What’s Next (#508)
- Sam Reveals The Company He's Worked On For The Last 8 Month
- 3 Business Ideas You Should Start in 2024 (ft. Pomp) (#524)
- How I Bought A Multi-Million Dollar Egg Carton Business For $0 | Sarah Moore Interview
- 4 Profitable Business Ideas That Men Are Sleeping On | ft. Codie Sanchez (#512)
- CEO Lessons: Bulls**t Mission Statements, Firing People & Saying ‘NO' (#505)
- Behind The Scenes of Selling My Company For Millions | Suli Ali (#410)
- every mention in 2023, scene by scene →
2022 6 mentions in 5 episodes 1 per episode
- We Hosted A Shark Tank For Tech Startups | My First Million Demo Day (#356)
- How FTX Scaled A $30 Billion Company With Only 30 Engineers!
- 3 Profitable Business Ideas You Should Start in 2022
- Is The Rock Going to Make $1B+ From Tequila? + Placebo Water, STR Update, and More
- Brainstorming The Best Business Ideas To Start In 2022 with Noah Kagan
- every mention in 2022, scene by scene →
2021 23 mentions in 17 episodes 1 per episode
- How Vending Machines are Generating Millions & The Next Big Social App | My First Million #187
- Making Millions Improving Mobility & How to Beat LinkedIn | My First Million #184
- Fitness Hotels, Steel-Manning, and Why the Creator Economy is Overhyped
- MFM #165: How Jack Butcher is Selling his Art for $76m & How to Research Wealthy People
- Why Everyone Is Wrong About the Metaverse, Gaingels, Companies that Don't Advertise, and More
- What Venture Capital Will Look Like in the Future | My First Million #215
- Why You Should Spend 5x Your Budget on an Engagement Ring | My First Million #201
- When to Go All In on an Idea & the Crypto Exchange That Could Have Been | My First Million #200
- 9 more episodes that year, every mention in 2021 →
Everything said about Andrew Wilkinson, oldest first
Apr 9, 2021 positive
Wilkinson: Warren Buffett is as genuine and approachable as on TV
“He was exactly who you'd expect him to be. I find with a lot of these guys, it's like, don't meet your heroes and they're not who they appear to be on TV. He's available all day. He talked to me for an hour and a half and he was just the nicest guy. He's exact…”
Apr 9, 2021 positive
Wilkinson: Delaying replies trains teams to solve their own problems
“If you don't respond to the text, and you take four hours to respond instead of 10 minutes, usually it's like, oh, actually, I figured this out. Or you train people that you don't respond quickly unless it's an emergency, and they go figure it out. But if you …”
Apr 9, 2021 positive
Wilkinson: Extreme delegation naturally evolves into investing and hiring CEOs
“And a lot of why we've gotten as big as we have is cause I just, I don't like doing stuff that I don't like doing. And so I just kept delegating the stuff I didn't enjoy. And when you do that a lot In its kind of final form, that's just investing where you're …”
Apr 9, 2021
Wilkinson: An intruder invaded our office demanding unreleased Apple Watch plans
“Six years ago a schizophrenic guy in my city thought that because we worked with Apple, we had the Apple watch before the Apple watch came out. He thought we had the Apple watch plans and he showed up in our office in like a super manic state quivering and lik…”
Apr 9, 2021 neutral
Apr 9, 2021
Wilkinson: An email introduction connected him directly to Warren Buffett
“I got a chance to talk to Warren Buffett on the phone. Some guy I was talking to, I was saying, you know, I'm trying to figure out philanthropy and how to give money away. And literally he goes, oh, you should talk to Warren Buffett. And I was like, what do yo…”
Apr 9, 2021 positive
Wilkinson: Dan Gilbert personally conducts full-day monthly onboarding for new hires
“So when we visited him you know, he probably had five or 6000 employees at the time. And he said, I still personally onboard every single employee. So once a month, I go into like a conference center and there's a, you know, a hundred or 200 new employees comi…”
Apr 9, 2021 neutral
Apr 23, 2021
Apr 23, 2021 bullish
Apr 23, 2021
Apr 23, 2021 bullish
Apr 23, 2021
Apr 23, 2021 bearish
Wilkinson: Founders should exploit 2021 valuations to issue stock
“And I think now is a great time to be scanning your portfolio or businesses and going, how can I
How can I basically take advantage of valuations right now and either, you know, issue stock or use my stock in my business to go buy stuff or just wait for oppor…”
Apr 23, 2021
Wilkinson: Gives $100K–$300K discretionary grants to researchers via Tiny Foundation
“About a year ago, I started doing this thing where I would just find people who I thought were smart in fields that I thought were important. And I'd say, here's a hundred to 300,000 dollars. You choose where it goes. So you donate it can go to your own resear…”
Apr 23, 2021
Apr 23, 2021 bearish
Apr 23, 2021 neutral
Apr 23, 2021
Apr 23, 2021 positive
Wilkinson: Podcasting is an inbound networking flywheel that skips cold intros
“I think podcasting is interesting because it lets you basically have like 10,000 people who kind of learn what you're about. And they can either decide if they like you or not. And if they opt in and they like you, you've already pre you've pre like sold them …”
Apr 23, 2021 positive
May 25, 2021 neutral
Wilkinson: Tiny stopped monthly CEO reporting; involvement harms portfolio performance
“We just did this a tiny, we changed, we don't get monthly reports anymore from the CEOs. So like there's businesses where I don't, I haven't even talked to the CEO for like three or four months. I don't even know what their numbers are. And what we've realized…”
May 25, 2021 bearish
Wilkinson: Hims has no real customer lock-in or competitive moat
“If you think about what HIMSS is, the original website was a well-designed site. They put some like, they find some stock images that are hip of like pill bottles. They add their logo onto it. So it looks like it's a special thing. And then they literally have…”
May 25, 2021 bullish
May 25, 2021 positive
May 25, 2021
Wilkinson: Wealthy people invent anxiety by obsessing over catastrophic risks
“The theme I see with people who make good amounts of money and become comfortable is they just make themselves uncomfortable again by obsessing over all this stuff that can go wrong, like getting, you know, health issues, car accidents, you know, how can it al…”
Oct 20, 2021 positive
Wilkinson: Established businesses are cruise ships while startups are volatile speedboats
“A startup is really like a speedboat, right? It's exhilarating. It can go anywhere, but at the end of the day, you know, you're driving over waves, you're getting your, you know, body destroyed, you're freezing cold. You might hit a rock. You might get drunk. …”
Oct 20, 2021 negative
Oct 20, 2021
Oct 20, 2021 neutral
Wilkinson: Extreme entrepreneurial success requires a personality disorder or trauma
“I think in order to be that successful, you have to have some kind of personality disorder. Or like trauma or something, and you look at Musk or Bezos, or if you read more about Bezos, I think he's a really difficult person to work for.”
Oct 20, 2021 negative
Wilkinson delayed shutting down his bakery due to public commitment bias
“So one example is I talked about the Sugar free bakery thing I was doing and we ended up getting we weren't legally allowed to use a key ingredient in Canada until it's approved. So I was like, okay, I have to shut this down, but I didn't shut it down for like…”
Oct 20, 2021 neutral
Wilkinson uses a one-way Twitter app to post without seeing engagement
“So like with Twitter, I have a one-way Twitter client that I'm using, so I don't actually see the results of my tweets, right? Although in this case, I'll admit I did I did go and look, but my goal is actually fully screen time on every device so I can't acces…”
Oct 20, 2021
Oct 20, 2021 positive
Wilkinson: A month-long digital detox resets the brain's pleasure baseline
“I think it's kind of like if you eat junk food all the time, like you're drinking coke and having burgers and stuff all the time, and then you eat broccoli, it doesn't taste that good. Your brain is primed for like these extreme flavors, and then if you switch…”
Oct 20, 2021 positive
Wilkinson: Building a business is a hack to meet interesting people
“The cool thing about business is you get to meet interesting people. Like business is just a hack, right? So like if you're interested in health, you figure out like a health business, you suddenly can meet all the most interesting people in that world.”
Oct 20, 2021 positive
Wilkinson: The ideal fame is industry respect without general public recognition
“I think like you want to be respected in your world. You want to be like in, in film, you'd want to be like the Coen brothers, right? Where it's like, no one knows what the Coen brothers look like, but if they're at the academy awards, they're like ballers and…”
Oct 20, 2021 positive
Wilkinson reduced his screen time to two hours via Apple Watch
“Well, I'm basically, I'm down from six hours a day of screen time to two, just over two hours, and I'm basically just, on random days, I've just been taking my Apple Watch, so if I have a Zoom call or something, I'll take my phone, but if I don't, I'll just br…”
Oct 20, 2021
Dec 31, 2021 neutral
Dec 31, 2021 positive
Buyer launched for under $100K and sold to Ramp within a year
“So we start this business called buyer. We go 50, 50 on it. I promote it and talk about it, given the rails and accounting and stuff. And we literally, I think we started it for like 50 or a hundred grand and we sold it to ramp about maybe six months ago now f…”
Dec 31, 2021 neutral
Oct 6, 2022 bearish
Oct 6, 2022 positive
Writing a Book Pre-Sells You So You Never Have to Pitch
“I think a book you get to exist in someone's brain for like 20, 25 hours. And it's exactly that, right? You can actually get someone to truly understand who you are. And then when you meet them, you don't have to do your preamble. You don't have to your pitch.…”
Oct 6, 2022 bullish
Market Panic Will Let Cash Buyers Acquire Businesses at 20-30% Yields
“You're about to enter an environment where anyone with cash who has a large sum of cash is going to be able to buy a business at say a 20 or a 30% earnings yield, meaning you can buy a business and pay yourself back in two or three years, maybe five years, and…”
Oct 6, 2022 positive
Oct 6, 2022 bearish
Wilkinson Uses Interest-Only Mortgages to Keep His Capital in Operating Businesses
“I hate real estate so much that I don't build equity in my own houses. So I do interest only mortgages because I want everything in businesses because businesses, a business can earn a million dollars of revenue and then the next year do a hundred million doll…”
Oct 6, 2022 bearish
Smart Investors Should Rent Homes and Put Their Capital Into Equities
“If someone's completely, if they're not an investor at all, then sure, go buy a house all day, whatever. It's a reasonably okay investment. But if you're even remotely smart and you know how to read and you go and read investing books and stuff, I think it's c…”
Oct 6, 2022 bearish
Tesla's Competitive Advantage Is Overestimated Due to Apple and Google Software
“I just think that everyone overestimated their competitive advantage. And then at the end of the day, you've got all these legacy manufacturers and, you know, ultimately if Apple and Google are providing the interface that most people use, it barely matters, r…”
Oct 6, 2022 bullish
Oct 6, 2022 neutral
Oct 6, 2022 neutral
Nov 17, 2022 negative
Wilkinson: Spreadsheet Investors Underestimate Operational Execution and Organizational Change
“One of the big problems with investors these days is they're often what I call spreadsheet investors. They look at a business like a spreadsheet and they go, oh, it's easy. We'll just increase margin by 20%. Not realizing that in order to do that, you have to …”
Nov 17, 2022 positive
Nov 17, 2022 negative
Wilkinson: Lost $10M building Flow against venture-backed Asana
“I mean, I think a lot of people know the story of flow, the project management software that I built where I basically poured ten million dollars into it because I was competing with Asana and didn't understand the dynamic of when you're competing against you …”
Nov 17, 2022 negative
Wilkinson: Raising from retail investors at inflated valuations is unethical
“I have a fundamental problem with taking money from someone when I know I can't give them a return or there's like a five percent chance and positioning it as, you know, you're investing in this super solid, awesome thing.”
Nov 17, 2022 neutral
Wilkinson: Charlie Munger admitted he cannot talk CEOs out of their ideas
“Chris and I had dinner with Charlie Munger a couple of years ago, and we asked him how involved do you get with the CEOs? And he really said I'll never forget this. He goes, I've never been able to change someone's mind. If someone has an idea about something …”
Nov 17, 2022 bearish
Wilkinson: True value creation by Chamath Palihapitiya won't be clear for decades
“Chamath, we won't know if Chamath has actually built value for another 10 or 20 years. And frankly, like his, it's all very like secret. Cause I think a lot of his stuff is private. So we really have no clue how much money he has, how much money he made what's…”
Nov 17, 2022 positive
Wilkinson: Being seen five times makes people perceive you as everywhere
“There's, I forget where the quote comes from, but there's this idea that if someone sees you five times, they think you're everywhere. So if you're on five podcasts they listen to, They deem you a huge celebrity and a success or whatever it is, right?”
Nov 17, 2022
Nov 17, 2022 neutral
Wilkinson: Supercast valuation was cut 50% after missing revenue milestone
“We raised at a ten million dollar valuation, which at the time was kind of a good you know, angel, angel round valuation, but it was structured so that within two years, if the business doesn't do a million dollars of revenue, that turns into a five million do…”
Nov 17, 2022
Wilkinson started 5 to 10 other businesses that almost all failed
“Started another five to 10 other businesses. And almost all of them failed. Like it was incredibly, incredibly painful. And after that, I kind of swore off starting businesses and I've only just come back to it over the last three years.”
Nov 17, 2022 negative
Nov 17, 2022 positive
Nov 17, 2022 negative
Wilkinson: Agency and Pixel Union Achieved 30-50% Margins Versus 2-3% in E-Commerce
“Whereas in my agency or in pixel union, I was making. 30 to 50% EBITDA margins. I was making like two or three percent and the amount of work required to move physical goods around by inventory. I realized that while on paper I was profitable, I was constantly…”
Nov 17, 2022
Wilkinson: Lost $100k blindly copying Howard Marks into Greek shipping stock
“I totally trust this guy. I read his book. It's incredible. I'm going to buy into this weird Greek shipping company. That he just bought, you know, fifty million dollars of equity in. And so I put like a hundred grand into it and it goes out of business.”
Nov 17, 2022 negative
Wilkinson: VC incentives push viable small companies into futile failure
“What I've seen is the incentive creates this situation where the founder is sitting on a business that could make them happy and give them a great lifestyle, but they have a gun to their head. And so they continue down the venture path, even when it's actually…”
Dec 29, 2022 bearish
Dec 29, 2022
Wilkinson: Procrastinating on debt hedge documents cost $500,000
“And so these documents were sitting in our office and I was like,
oh, I'll do it tomorrow.
I'll do it tomorrow.
I kept putting it off.
And then finally I signed it.
And I realized that between the time that I, it was sitting there for a week and in that week, …”
Dec 29, 2022 bullish
Dec 29, 2022 positive
Dec 29, 2022 neutral
Feb 2, 2023 positive
Feb 2, 2023 bullish
Feb 2, 2023 bearish
Feb 2, 2023
Parr: Raising outside capital permanently prevents founders from repurposing agency profits
“The second you raise money, that, that your cap table is one of the few things that you can't reverse, or it's really hard. And he didn't raise money for a company that, MetaLab should not have raised money. And it did not raise money. And because of that, he …”
Feb 2, 2023 neutral
Feb 2, 2023 positive
Apr 25, 2023
Apr 25, 2023 positive
Parr: MetaLab generated $62.8M with 40-45% margins in 2021
“In 2021, it did 62.8 million dollars. And that's interesting because it actually has been growing not crazy fast. So it's been growing something like 23% a year. Or for the last handful of years, we can only see a couple years here, but it does a 45% or 40% ma…”
May 12, 2023
Wilkinson: MetaLab Almost Sold for $15M but Buyer Failed to Fund
“Chris and I, we, you know, running an agency is really stressful, and we got this offer for the business to sell it for fifteen million. This is about eight or nine years ago, almost 10 years ago, and... We sign the documents, you know, my lawyer calls me in, …”
May 12, 2023 positive
May 12, 2023 positive
May 12, 2023 neutral
Wilkinson: Acquisitions almost always work, but venture bets lose all his money
“I actually haven't lost that much money in businesses where I'm buying the whole thing. Almost all of those work. It's the ones where I'm doing venture or I'm betting on something or I'm trying to start a business. That's where I lose all my money.”
May 12, 2023 bullish
Jul 27, 2023 neutral
Oct 10, 2023 positive
Nov 22, 2023 negative
Wilkinson: Hired CEOs will always spend excess cash because incentives are misaligned
“If you ask the dinner guests, what's for dinner, they will always say steak. And I was like, oh my God, that's so true. Right. It's like, why wouldn't they, you know, it's not their money. They, you know, yes. Don't get me wrong. Like a CEO is incentivized for…”
Nov 22, 2023
Wilkinson: Pixel Union started for $20K and went public for $260M
“So basically started it for 20 K, sold it for about seven million. And then I ended up buying it back from the guys who bought it for twenty five million. And then about a year later, we took a public for two hundred and sixty million.”
Nov 22, 2023 positive
Wilkinson: Neglected SaaS side projects are prime acquisition targets
“When you see a business where they're just not, they're myopic on something, they're not doing the best practices. And often it's because they have other priorities. I mean, The base camp guys had a hundred million dollar ARR SaaS business. The last thing they…”
Nov 22, 2023
Wilkinson: Tiny forces AR discipline by leaving companies with two weeks' cash
“Chris, Chris and I, we used to leave two weeks expenses in the business. If it meant that if they don't collect their AR, their accounts receivable, they go off a cliff. Now, what they don't know is they're not going to go off a cliff because Tiny, the bank, w…”
Nov 22, 2023
Wilkinson: $57,000 charity lunch with Bill Ackman led to deal co-investment
“And so I ended up bidding 57,000 dollars to go have lunch with him. And my bet was I had no expectation there'd be any business to do because he's a hedge fund manager. I'm a tech investor. But I knew he'd be, like, an interesting person to meet, and so I went…”
Nov 22, 2023 bearish
Nov 22, 2023
Nov 22, 2023 neutral
Nov 22, 2023
Nov 22, 2023 positive
Wilkinson: Target unsaturated ecosystems like Discord over Shopify
“Now I think Shopify is hard because you're late, you know, the marketplace already exists. It takes a lot of time to get approved. You know, that might not be the place to go where you might want to look is like discord or add a par or any kind of software eco…”
Nov 22, 2023 bullish
Wilkinson: Tiny scaled We Work Remotely from $400K to $4M EBITDA
“We bought a business about almost 10 years ago called weworkremotely.com. And it's very simple. It's a job board... We buy the business. We pay three or four times earnings or something, which was, you know, a fair price given what it was doing. We immediately…”
Nov 22, 2023 positive
Wilkinson: Email preliminary valuations early to screen out unrealistic founder expectations
“I'm like via email. I want to send the first offer. I want them to say, yes, that's interesting. And then I'll spend time on it. And what I used to do is I would spend all this time getting to know people and unboxing the business only to realize that their ex…”
Dec 18, 2023
Dec 18, 2023 negative
Andrew Wilkinson: Raising outside fund capital creates constant cognitive interruptions
“The problem with raising money is that at the end of the day, there's people who can call you, and you owe it to answer the phone, and they can interrupt you at any given time, and especially in a rolling fund, there's like 50 of those people.”
Dec 18, 2023
Wilkinson: Wealth creates a lose-lose social dynamic when dining bills arrive
“There's this weird dynamic that happens where when the bill comes, if you pay the bill, you're showing off, or you're implying they can't afford it, and if you don't pay the bill, you're an asshole because you can afford to, and so that's why we do that.”
Jan 24, 2024 positive
Andrew Wilkinson Uses His Private Jet to Aggressively Pursue Deals
“Andrew Wilkinson does this. He throws his weight around. When he wants something, or he like sets his target on someone, a relationship, or a business he wants to buy, or whatever, He really throws his weight around in a way that I definitely don't, right? Lik…”
Mar 4, 2024 bullish
Shaan Puri predicts Andrew Wilkinson's creator joint ventures will yield $300M+.
“I would bet that he's going to make hundreds of millions off of these plays. If you add up the, you know, three to five that he's going to do in this category, I would bet that that's a three to three, like a three hundred million dollar prize.”
Mar 4, 2024 bearish
Mar 4, 2024 neutral
Jul 5, 2024
Jul 5, 2024
Jul 5, 2024 negative
Jul 5, 2024 positive
Jul 5, 2024 bearish
Wilkinson: Boring $2M Cash-Flow Businesses Beat Venture-Backed Startups
“Look, if you just started a boring business, like a trash hauling business or window cleaning business or whatever it is, You got it to one or two million dollars of cashflow, sell it or hold it. You're set for life. And instead they go off and they raise all …”
Jul 5, 2024
Jul 5, 2024 positive
Wilkinson's Businesses Doubled in Size After He Hired Replacement CEOs
“When I started hiring CEOs, because before I knew it, all the businesses started like doubling. And the reason they doubled was because I was only giving 20% of my time to all the companies. And frankly, I didn't know what I was doing. And I just started hirin…”
Jul 5, 2024 neutral
Jul 5, 2024
Jul 5, 2024
Jul 5, 2024 positive
Wilkinson: Strong executive talent often prioritizes salary and stability over founding
“Over time you realize like people want stability and they want surety and they want to have health benefits and all this stuff you don't get. And so I realized like there's this whole other class of people where they want to run a company for somebody else. Th…”
Jul 5, 2024
Jul 5, 2024 positive
Puri: Early dollars generate far more incremental freedom than later wealth
“The early dollars create a lot more freedom than the later dollars. I think is the way that you're explaining it. And those early, early dollars and early freedom matter a lot more than the later dollars because you only get so much incremental freedom. In fac…”
Jul 5, 2024 positive
Jul 5, 2024 positive
Jul 5, 2024
Jul 5, 2024
Aug 15, 2024 neutral
Hormozi: Acquisition.com targets fewer, larger deals vs Tiny's model
“I think that probably a major difference between like the tiny slash Wilkinson model and how we do it is that we are operators. And so the investment strategy has slowly, you know, continues to, you know, move over time, but it's been fewer, bigger deals that …”
Jan 24, 2025 bearish
Wilkinson: Underwriting software deals conservatively, shifting focus to communities
“Personally, when I'm underwriting software deals now, I am being incredibly conservative. And honestly, I'm much more focused on communities and social networks as a result. We still look at software when there's like a hardware component or there's some kind …”
Jan 24, 2025 bullish
Jan 24, 2025 bearish
Wilkinson: Software will commoditize as AI eliminates coding barriers
“And so my belief is basically that as more and more people don't need to learn how to code and can build software, software will become more and more commoditized. There'll be way more competition and it'll be a way harder world for software businesses.”
Jan 24, 2025
Jan 24, 2025 positive
Wilkinson: AI agent replaced assistant for pre-meeting research briefs
“Like I have a, I have an agent that preps me for every meeting. So, 30 minutes before every meeting, I get a text and it says, hey, you're meeting Sean and Sam. You were emailing them about this topic. You're going to invest in their company. And here's two bi…”
Jan 24, 2025 positive
Jan 24, 2025 positive
Jan 24, 2025
Wilkinson: MetaLab declined equity for designing Slack at a $20M valuation
“Metalab back in 20, I guess it was 2012 or 20 13, we designed Slack. And at the time Slack was actually a failed gaming startup and Stuart Butterfield was basically trying to do something with the remains of it and trying to build, build a chat tool. And so He…”
Jan 24, 2025 neutral
Puri: Apply a 'charisma discount' to persuasive speakers and amplify deadpan ones
“I apply basically a discount factor. It's like a charisma discount. So the more persuasive somebody is about everything, the more I have to discount to some degree. It doesn't mean I just like throw it away. Right. But I have to be careful not to get overly ex…”
Jan 24, 2025 negative
Wilkinson: Passed on investing in Bench Accounting over low-margin services concerns
“My first designer was this guy named Adam Saint... He started this company called bench. And so he comes to me and he's like, Hey, we're doing, you know, basically AI accounting 10 years early... But I looked at it and I was like, oh, it's a services business …”