deep learning

38 statements across 22 episodes · 8 bullish · 16 bearish · 21 people on the record · first statement Dec 18, 2014 by Yann LeCun · across every show →

Everything said about deep learning, oldest first

Dec 18, 2014 positive
Assertion Partly supported
LeCun: Apple, Android, and Microsoft mobile speech recognition use deep learning
“So probably many of you know that most You know, mobile speech recognition application search and stuff like that uses deep learning for the last two years. This is both for, you know, Apple, Android, Microsoft. All of those applications use deep learning for …”
Yann LeCun Dec 18, 2014 ▶ 15:27 Yann Lecun, Facebook // Artificial Intelligence // Data Driven #32 (Hosted by FirstMark Capital)
Dec 18, 2014 bullish
Prediction Held up
LeCun predicted in 2014 deep learning would conquer natural language processing
“There's a kind of a sense that in the community that the next set of techniques to kind of fall to deep learning, if you want, will be natural language processing.”
Yann LeCun Dec 18, 2014 ▶ 26:15 Yann Lecun, Facebook // Artificial Intelligence // Data Driven #32 (Hosted by FirstMark Capital)
Dec 18, 2014 positive
Insight
LeCun: Deep learning automates feature engineering by integrating representation with classification
“And deep learning basically opens the possibility that you, to automate the process of feature engineering. So, it essentially learns to, It integrates the process of producing good representations with the process of learning a classifier in one fell swoop.”
Yann LeCun Dec 18, 2014 ▶ 17:47 Yann Lecun, Facebook // Artificial Intelligence // Data Driven #32 (Hosted by FirstMark Capital)
Dec 18, 2014 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
LeCun: Deep learning's rapid industry adoption surprised early AI pioneers
“I mean, the whole success of deep learning, actually has taken some of us by surprise. We were all sort of Convinced from a long time ago that deep learning was going to take off at some point, but the speed at which has been picked up by, ah, industry and res…”
Yann LeCun Dec 18, 2014 ▶ 1:17 Yann Lecun, Facebook // Artificial Intelligence // Data Driven #32 (Hosted by FirstMark Capital)
Dec 18, 2014 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
LeCun: Industry adopted deep learning faster than academia
“Industry picked up on deep learning faster than academia.”
Yann LeCun Dec 18, 2014 ▶ 29:22 Yann Lecun, Facebook // Artificial Intelligence // Data Driven #32 (Hosted by FirstMark Capital)
May 28, 2015 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Enterprise deep learning will remain vertical before converging horizontally
“In terms of where we're going to see it In industry, it's likely to be still in a kind of vertical by vertical system for a little while before we start seeing a little more convergence.”
David Luan May 28, 2015 ▶ 16:43 David Luan, Dextro // Real-World Video Understanding (FirstMark / Data Driven NYC)
Oct 21, 2015 positive
Insight
Deep learning eliminates domain experts needed for manual feature engineering
“You don't need an expert in your domain for understanding and representing that data in order to give it to a final classifier. It will actually learn all of that automatically.”
Richard Socher Oct 21, 2015 ▶ 2:32 Richard Socher, MetaMind // Deep Learning for Enterprise (Hosted by FirstMark Capital)
Oct 21, 2015 positive
Insight
Deep learning excels particularly when applied to unstructured data
“Deep learning is a set of algorithms that is really not that different to machine learning in general. It can do anything that general machine learning can do, and in many cases better, but it really shines when you have unstructured data.”
Richard Socher Oct 21, 2015 ▶ 0:42 Richard Socher, MetaMind // Deep Learning for Enterprise (Hosted by FirstMark Capital)
Jan 25, 2016 negative
Insight
Marcus: Deep learning models struggle with low-frequency edge cases
“People get very excited every time there's a new deep learning result. But it's always the case of doing better on the high frequency data than the low frequency data.”
Gary Marcus Jan 25, 2016 ▶ 8:04 Can A.I. Become More Human? // Gary Marcus, Geometric Intelligence (Hosted by FirstMark Capital)
Jan 25, 2016 negative
Opinion
Marcus: Deep learning alone won't solve common-sense AI without symbolic systems
“Deep learning doesn't seem to be getting us there. The old systems, in some ways, we're better at that. We do need a marriage between the two.”
Gary Marcus Jan 25, 2016 ▶ 22:18 Can A.I. Become More Human? // Gary Marcus, Geometric Intelligence (Hosted by FirstMark Capital)
Dec 8, 2016
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Mason: Deep learning completely removes the need for domain feature engineering
“In deep learning, you're not doing feature engineering anymore. Nobody cares about what you know about the domain.”
Hilary Mason Dec 8, 2016 ▶ 20:20 A Process for Discovery // Hilary Mason, Fast Forward Labs [FirstMark's Data Driven]
Apr 6, 2017 negative
Insight
Altshuler: Deep learning is inadequate for predicting dynamic human behavior
“Deep learning requires a lot of data, relatively speaking, and therefore, by definition, cannot detect recent changes in the data, emerging patterns, ah, and therefore, it's, ah, really, really, ah, inadequate to predict human behavior that is, ah, actually do…”
Yaniv Altshuler Apr 6, 2017 ▶ 6:12 Rethinking Predictive Analytics // Yaniv Altshuler, Endor (FirstMark's Data Driven)
Apr 6, 2017 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Altshuler: Modern machine learning technologies were developed roughly 50 years ago
“All the technologies that we have today were developed around 50 years ago, plus minus a decade. Even deep learning that is so trendy today, it's basically very large neural networks. Concepts from the fifties matured around the seventies.”
Yaniv Altshuler Apr 6, 2017 ▶ 2:19 Rethinking Predictive Analytics // Yaniv Altshuler, Endor (FirstMark's Data Driven)
Sep 28, 2017 bearish
Opinion
Twitter's Magic Pony acquisition marked the peak of AI talent premiums
“But I think that's, you know, that was the sort of tailing off of the, for me, the Twitter Magic Pony deal was kind of the, ah, the tail end of this absurd, extraordinary premium on, on deep learning, and then now, more and more, it's becoming just part of the…”
Bradford Cross Sep 28, 2017 ▶ 11:32 AI Startup Predictions // Bradford Cross - A fireside chat with Matt Turck (FirstMark's Data Driven)
Nov 20, 2017
Insight
Hoffman: Advanced AI models cannot overcome exclusive access to core data
“In that world, even the most advanced models, deep learning, and machine learning frameworks can't beat them because they have access to this kind of core underlying data.”
Auren Hoffman Nov 20, 2017 ▶ 8:46 Where Should Machines Go to Learn? // Auren Hoffman, SafeGraph (FirstMark's Data Driven)
Dec 19, 2017 negative
Opinion
Thakur avoids buzzwords like NLP and machine learning in system design
“Notice I did not quite use buzzwords like NLP, or deep learning, or data science, or machine learning, which I could very well have used, but I don't think it's that useful.”
Mayur Thakur Dec 19, 2017 ▶ 14:43 Surveillance Platform for Banks // Mayur Thakur, Goldman Sachs (FirstMark's Data Driven)
Mar 2, 2018
Disclosure
Stent: Bloomberg shifted data labeling to deep learning and decision trees
“And that's something that historically has been done mostly with rule-based systems, but today we do it with deep learning and a lot of decision trees.”
Amanda Stent Mar 2, 2018 ▶ 13:49 Text Analytics for Finance // Amanda Stent, Bloomberg (FirstMark's Data Driven)
May 18, 2018
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Piantino: Startups building deep learning products struggle with infrastructure
“If you have startups in your portfolio, I know we have at least one VC in the audience, so and they're trying to do something in deep learning. They're trying to build a new product with some of this technology. I think you'll find that they do struggle with i…”
Serkan Piantino May 18, 2018 ▶ 10:36 Make AI Less Mysterious // Serkan Piantino, Spell (FirstMark's Data Driven)
May 22, 2018 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Changing deep learning target categories requires retraining models from scratch
“But if you want to change your columns, your categories, then you have to redo all your multiple choice tests and then retrain the system. And if you want to change the categories, you have to start over.”
Ben Vigoda May 22, 2018 ▶ 4:38 A New Approach to Machine Intelligence // Ben Vigoda, Gamalon (FirstMark's Data Driven)
May 22, 2018 negative
Insight
Ben Vigoda: Deep learning is excellent at instinct but poor at thought
“AI is really good at instinct. I mean deep learning, it's not so great at thought.”
Ben Vigoda May 22, 2018 ▶ 19:13 A New Approach to Machine Intelligence // Ben Vigoda, Gamalon (FirstMark's Data Driven)
Jun 8, 2018 bullish
Disclosure
Dixon: Over half of Andreessen Horowitz's bio fund involves deep learning
“More than half Of those companies in that fund involved sort of deep learning in some way.”
Chris Dixon Jun 8, 2018 ▶ 8:41 Fireside Chat: Chris Dixon, General Partner at Andreessen Horowitz (FirstMark's Data Driven)
Sep 17, 2019 negative
Insight
Marcus: Deep learning models lack understanding of spatial relationships and silhouettes
“Deep learning doesn't even really fully understand the relations between parts and wholes. It certainly doesn't understand what a silhouette is, and it gets it wrong.”
Gary Marcus Sep 17, 2019 ▶ 7:35 Rebooting AI // Gary Marcus, Robust AI (FirstMark's Data Driven NYC)
Sep 17, 2019 negative
Insight
Marcus: Deep learning relies primarily on texture, not shape, for recognition
“Deep learning, it mostly cares about texture.”
Gary Marcus Sep 17, 2019 ▶ 8:04 Rebooting AI // Gary Marcus, Robust AI (FirstMark's Data Driven NYC)
Sep 17, 2019 neutral
Insight
Marcus: Deep learning achievements are limited to perceptual classification
“These successes are examples of one thing. They're all examples of what a cognitive psychologist would call perceptual classification, and that's part of what we do as intelligent human beings, but it's not all that we do.”
Gary Marcus Sep 17, 2019 ▶ 5:17 Rebooting AI // Gary Marcus, Robust AI (FirstMark's Data Driven NYC)
Sep 17, 2019 negative
Insight
Marcus: Deep learning requires vast data, quick tasks, and stable domains
“If a typical person can do a mental task with less than one second of thought, and we can gather an enormous amount of data, of directly relevant data, we have a fighting chance. So long as the test data aren't too terribly different from the training data, an…”
Gary Marcus Sep 17, 2019 ▶ 5:59 Rebooting AI // Gary Marcus, Robust AI (FirstMark's Data Driven NYC)
Sep 17, 2019 negative
Insight
Marcus: Deep learning cannot perform common sense, planning, analogy, or reasoning
“Perception is what deep learning does, and actually it only does a small part of perception. There's lots of parts of perception where we use our knowledge about the world that it doesn't capture. And then there are all these other things like common sense and…”
Gary Marcus Sep 17, 2019 ▶ 13:33 Rebooting AI // Gary Marcus, Robust AI (FirstMark's Data Driven NYC)
Sep 17, 2019 negative
Opinion
Marcus: Deep learning fails at reading comprehension and misses the point
“I think that deep learning doesn't just fail on reading. It completely, entirely misses the point.”
Gary Marcus Sep 17, 2019 ▶ 9:50 Rebooting AI // Gary Marcus, Robust AI (FirstMark's Data Driven NYC)
Sep 17, 2019 negative
Insight
Marcus: Deep learning systems cannot perform compositionality or combine separate ideas
“Deep learning can't do what we call compositionality. It can't put ideas together.”
Gary Marcus Sep 17, 2019 ▶ 8:39 Rebooting AI // Gary Marcus, Robust AI (FirstMark's Data Driven NYC)
Sep 17, 2019 bearish
Insight
Marcus: Deep learning is a better ladder but cannot reach the moon
“Deep learning is a better ladder for sure, but a better ladder doesn't necessarily get you to the moon.”
Gary Marcus Sep 17, 2019 ▶ 19:27 Rebooting AI // Gary Marcus, Robust AI (FirstMark's Data Driven NYC)
Sep 17, 2019 negative
Opinion
Frame.ai CEO: Deep learning will not yield artificial general intelligence
“I agree that deep learning is not about to give us generalized intelligence, but it has really fundamentally changed the way that we interact with unstructured data.”
George Davis Sep 17, 2019 ▶ 7:49 (Actually) Listening at Scale // George Davis, Founder & CEO (FirstMark's Data Driven NYC)
Oct 22, 2019 neutral
Insight
Domingos: Major deep learning wins come from combining multiple techniques
“A lot of the things that people think of as successes of deep learning are actually successes of combining deep learning with other things.”
Pedro Domingos Oct 22, 2019 ▶ 15:41 Fireside Chat: Pedro Domingos, Head of Machine Learning, DE Shaw (FirstMark's Data Driven NYC)
Oct 22, 2019 negative
Opinion
Domingos: Mandating total model explainability literally makes deep learning illegal
“And at the end of the day, you know, you can't, like the European Union, mandate that every model has to be explainable, right? Because then, if you read that law literally, it makes deep learning illegal, right?”
Pedro Domingos Oct 22, 2019 ▶ 32:31 Fireside Chat: Pedro Domingos, Head of Machine Learning, DE Shaw (FirstMark's Data Driven NYC)
Aug 9, 2023 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Biewald: Pharma is investing far more in deep learning than realized
“I think pharma is investing way more in deep learning than people realize.”
Lukas Biewald Aug 9, 2023 ▶ 26:42 Startup to Industry Standard: Lukas Biewald Explains How W&B Scaled MLOps for OpenAI, NVIDIA & More
Sep 20, 2023 neutral
Insight
Goshen: Deep learning is necessary but not sufficient for reliable AI
“Deep learning is, is amazing. And with that said, it's necessary, but not sufficient component.”
Ori Goshen Sep 20, 2023 ▶ 8:52 Beyond ChatGPT: Ori Goshen’s Playbook for Building Neuro-Symbolic LLMs
Apr 3, 2025
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Knoop: Deep learning has millions of engineers, program synthesis has mere hundreds
“There's maybe a couple of million deep learning engineers now in the world. In contrast, there's probably maybe only a few hundred like really great program synthesis folks across, across the world.”
Mike Knoop Apr 3, 2025 ▶ 59:19 Chasing Real AGI: Inside ARC Prize 2025 with Chollet & Knoop
Nov 26, 2025
Insight
Kaiser: Making deep learning ideas work is harder than generating them
“In deep learning, people laugh that ideas are cheap. Making them work is, is the hard part.”
Łukasz Kaiser Nov 26, 2025 ▶ 26:47 What’s Next for AI? OpenAI’s Łukasz Kaiser (Transformer Co-Author)
Dec 18, 2025
Insight
Bourgeau: In deep learning, negative results often mean unoptimized techniques
“Especially in deep learning, a negative results doesn't mean something doesn't work. It means you haven't made it work yet often.”
Sebastien Bourgeau Dec 18, 2025 ▶ 22:48 ”We’re Ahead of Where I Thought We’d Be” — Gemini 3 & the Future of AI
Jul 2, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Catanzaro: Dario Amodei worked in bioinformatics before deep learning
“At the time he had been working in bioinformatics, so he hadn't been working on deep learning or the things that we call AI these days.”
Bryan Catanzaro Jul 2, 2026 ▶ 15:50 Inside Nemotron & NVIDIA’s AI Lab | Bryan Catanzaro
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