Data Mesh

8 statements across 4 episodes · 1 bullish · 3 bearish · 4 people on the record · first statement Oct 27, 2021 by Zhamak Dehghani · said 2 times in 1 episodes since 2021 · across every show →

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Oct 27, 2021 negative
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Dehghani: Current Data Mesh setups are Frankenstein creations stitching existing tech
“At this point in time, it looks like a Frankenstein creation because we have to stitch together a lot of technologies that exist and they weren't designed for this model of reconfiguring, you know, being reconfigured in this way.”
Zhamak Dehghani Oct 27, 2021 ▶ 18:04 Fireside Chat: Zhamak Dehghani (Founder, Data Mesh) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Oct 27, 2021
Insight
Dehghani: True data immutability requires both event and processing timestamps
“The data can be only immutable if we build two time timestamps into every single kind of representation of the data, and those two timestamps are when something actually happened, and when we process that information, our understanding of that data.”
Zhamak Dehghani Oct 27, 2021 ▶ 28:13 Fireside Chat: Zhamak Dehghani (Founder, Data Mesh) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Oct 27, 2021
Disclosure
ThoughtWorks plans to publish an open-source Data Mesh reference implementation
“So we will publish that open source. We'll have an open source reference implementation. So we're working on it internally.”
Zhamak Dehghani Oct 27, 2021 ▶ 31:46 Fireside Chat: Zhamak Dehghani (Founder, Data Mesh) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Oct 27, 2021 negative
Insight
Dehghani: Centralized data architecture creates systems fragile to macro-level change
“Centralization of the data, centralization of the organization, functional division between the data and non-data, those are the things that have led to kind of a system that is fragile to scale and change at the macro level, not at the bits and bytes level, r…”
Zhamak Dehghani Oct 27, 2021 ▶ 5:10 Fireside Chat: Zhamak Dehghani (Founder, Data Mesh) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Oct 27, 2021
Insight
Dehghani: Enterprise data lake migration should start with data consumer needs
“I think you start going backward from your consumers of the data data lakes. So look at who's accessing it, why they're accessing it, what data do they need? Work backward and go back to the source.”
Zhamak Dehghani Oct 27, 2021 ▶ 26:41 Fireside Chat: Zhamak Dehghani (Founder, Data Mesh) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Oct 10, 2022 negative
Opinion
Stancil: Data mesh is an uninteresting side effect of failed centralization
“I guess, ah, seems hard to manage and practice. The way I've seen people describe it is basically it's the thing that you naturally create when you're a very big organization and you can't have a centralized data team that can possibly centralize everything, w…”
Benn Stancil Oct 10, 2022 ▶ 31:18 Separating Data Hype From Substance | Fireside Chat with Mode Co-Founder Benn Stancil
Nov 17, 2022
Disclosure
ADP rejected federated queries to maintain a centralized analytics repository
“The piece we didn't bring from the data mesh was the notion of federated query. Because the problem with federated query is the latency of the query is the worst performing member of the federated group. Right? And so we still have a centralized data repositor…”
Jack Berkowitz Nov 17, 2022 ▶ 14:20 Leveraging People Data at Scale | ADP Chief Data Officer, Jack Berkowitz
Jan 30, 2025 positive
Insight
Borgman: Data mesh's lasting legacy is the concept of data products
“I think the lasting legacy, ah, of that, though, is this concept of data products, creating these sort of curated data sets from data that can live in, in multiple places, and thinking about them from a product perspective, with a product mindset, which is to …”
Justin Borgman Jan 30, 2025 ▶ 54:07 Trino, Iceberg and the Battle for the Lakehouse | Justin Borgman, CEO, Starburst
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