closed-source models

also referred to as: closed source model · closed source models

4 statements across 3 episodes · 0 bullish · 3 bearish · 3 people on the record · first statement Jun 28, 2023 by Jeff Huber · across every show →

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Jun 28, 2023 neutral

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Huber: Steering LLMs at embedding layer is not exposed in closed-source models

“So, there's lots of stuff around steering language models at the embedding layer itself, and not using text but this is not yet exposed To at least closed source models, so.”

Jeff Huber Jun 28, 2023 ▶ 19:55 Why Vector Databases Are Exploding: Chroma Co-Founder Jeff Huber on Building AI-Native Infra

Nov 1, 2023 negative

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Srinivas: Open-source AI models do not match closed-source model capabilities

“That needs the open source models or fine tuned versions of them to match the closed source, the closed ones. And That's not the case today.”

Aravind Srinivas Nov 1, 2023 ▶ 45:54 Perplexity AI CEO on Dethroning Google & Redefining Search

Nov 1, 2023 bearish

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Srinivas: Self-hosting open-source LLMs is more expensive than closed-source APIs

“Even if there exists a checkpoint today, that's as good as the close models. It's still not an incentive to use them and serve them yourself because you're going to burn more money than paying for the close ones because the close ones are being served in such …”

Aravind Srinivas Nov 1, 2023 ▶ 46:08 Perplexity AI CEO on Dethroning Google & Redefining Search

Aug 6, 2026 negative

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Wolf: 90% of AI Fake News Is Made by Closed-Source Models

“All of that is, like, maybe not all, let's say, 90%, to be fair, is made by closed source model, right?”

Thomas Wolf Aug 6, 2026 ▶ 14:35 “OpenAI’s Model Hacked Us” - Hugging Face’s Thomas Wolf

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