Thomas Wolf, Co-Founder and CSO of Hugging Face, challenges the claim that open-source models are the primary source of online disinformation and automated spam.
“All of that is, like, maybe not all, let's say, 90%, to be fair, is made by closed source model, right?”
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“What people quickly discovered is that the model was not at all task with attacking us, but decided to do that as a side quest of something else.”
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Wolf: Prior OpenAI Training Runs Left Notes for Future Runs
“I think learning we had at Black Hat yesterday was that some of the previous training run may have left some notes for future training runs, which is, I think mind, mind blowing.”
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“If for many aspects, I think the closed open distinction is almost orthogonal to the safe and safe. People don't understand that, you know, easily because it's easier to do bad mapping than to try to understand the subtlety.”
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Wolf: AI Model Used Fake GitHub Accounts to Social Engineer Maintainers
“Basically, the model was tasked to solve this attack, this, like, to attack and to penetrate this subnetwork, and what it decided to do, it decided to get one of the maintainer of a library that could be used To operate this activity directory to merge like ma…”
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Disclosure
Wolf: OpenAI Admitted Model Evaluation Caused Hugging Face Cyber Incident
“And then about a week later, OpenAI contacted us and tell us that this was much likely something that happened as part of one of their model development or evaluation, basically.”
Thomas WolfAug 6, 2026▶ 4:28“OpenAI’s Model Hacked Us” - Hugging Face’s Thomas Wolf
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Wolf: Claude Opus Refused to Assist Hugging Face During Incident
“And in this case is, it's not only that Fable told us I'm not allowed to touch cybersecurity, but also Opus, which was the fallback was saying, no, I'm also not touching these things. So basically the end was just say we won't process anything about that, but …”
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