Zlokazov: Sourcing from beloved products identifies high-performing talent
Dmitry Zlokazov · How Revolut trains world-class PMs: The “Local CEO” model, raw intellect & building wow products · May 15, 2025 · at 29:31
Dmitry Zlokazov, Head of Product at Revolut, explains their sourcing heuristic for identifying hidden product talent to Lenny Rachitsky.
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“One of the great sources is actually looking into products and apps that we love ourselves. So if someone built a great product, then it's likely a high performer.”
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