Bob Moesta

48 statements across 3 episodes · 11 bullish · 8 bearish · 2 people on the record · first statement Aug 24, 2023 by Bob Moesta · said 13 times in 4 episodes since 2022 · across every show →

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Aug 24, 2023
Insight
Moesta: Vocal customer complaints do not indicate willingness to switch products
“So the phrase I have is bitching ain't switching. Just cause people bitch about something doesn't mean they're going to do anything about it.”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 37:04 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023
Insight
Moesta: Most products are hired for multiple conflicting customer jobs
“Most, most companies or most products are hired to do three, four, five different jobs. And they're in conflict with each other. One person wants to go faster and one person wants to go be more thorough.”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 20:30 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023
Insight
Moesta: Interviewers should avoid discussion guides to uncover meaningful information
“The other tip I have is to not have a discussion guide. It drives people crazy because everybody wants to ask the same set of questions. But the problem happens is when you ask the same set of questions, you actually don't follow the ones that actually have th…”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 30:22 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023 negative
Insight
Moesta: Deep Habits Obscure JTBD Insights Until Consumers Switch
“If you go to something that's just too, like it doesn't register, it's so deep of a habit that they don't really know what they're doing. You'll never going to be able to get that information out of it's again, the habitual stuff is very hard to see the job. I…”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 53:09 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023
Disclosure
Moesta: JTBD research is based on criminal and intelligence interrogation
“The method itself is not based on traditional research or market research, asking people what it is. It's actually based on criminal and intelligence interrogation about telling me the story about how you decided today's the day I bought a house or today's the…”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 17:48 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023
Insight
Moesta: Catering to power users destroys product simplicity and broad appeal
“And if you follow, this is the other part, if you follow your best users, they'll take you up to this world that then actually destroys the lower end of the world of why people are there. And so if Basecamp would have added all those things, one of the reasons…”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 37:24 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023
Insight
Moesta: JTBD identifies competition from demand-side context rather than product category
“Jobs helps you see the true competitive set from what we call the demand side of the world. As opposed to the competitive set from the supply side of the world, which is the technology or the underlying business model by how which we're making it.”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 7:08 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023 positive
Insight
Deliberately misinterpreting customer interviews makes subjects elaborate and reveal more
“I play things back incorrectly because they're going to say no, and I'm going to say, all right, fix it. And then they'll talk more. The moment they, somebody says yes, there's nothing more to say.”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 27:52 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Moesta met with Clayton Christensen for four agenda-free hours quarterly for 27 years
“And I had Four hours a quarter for 27 years with Clay with no agenda, which is kind of amazing.”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 1:06:59 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023
Insight
Moesta: Presenting false options pushes interviewees past the edge of language
“When they run out of, I usually get them to what I call the edge of language where they have no more language. And what I do is I literally then bracket it. So was it more about this or more about that? And I know it's neither one of those and it forces them t…”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 31:03 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023
Assertion Contradicted
Moesta: Over 50% of people switching jobs do not get more money
“Over 50% of the people who got new jobs didn't get more money.”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 26:17 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023
Insight
Moesta: Most products fail because creators make trade-offs customers reject
“Choose what to suck at and figure out the trade-offs that you need to make and make sure that your trade-offs map The trade-offs of the customer because nine times out of 10, most products that fail is because they made a trade-off that, that the customer didn…”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 58:49 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023 positive
Insight
Moesta: JTBD patterns repeat after 7-8 interviews; cap rounds at 10-12
“The pat, the interesting part is from a causal mechanism perspective and from us from a set theory perspective, meaning the sets of pushes, pulls, anxieties, and habits, it starts to repeat around seven or eight. And I usually do 10, no more than 12.”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 29:10 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023
Disclosure
Moesta: I cannot traditionally read or write words
“I can't read and write. So, so I can, so the thing is, is, is I cannot read the words that I write and I cannot read like, so if somebody reads it to me, I can actually play it back.”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 22:01 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023
Insight
Moesta: Product roadmaps beyond 120 days should focus on struggling moments
“So instead of just talking about features, it's typically talking about features for the first 90 to a 120 days. But after that, we just talk about struggling moments. Because that's the seed for real innovation and basically where new products come from.”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 9:39 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023
Insight
Downsizing home buyers often stalled moves without space for their dining tables
“What we realized is people, if they didn't know where the dining room table was going to go, they weren't going to move. And so it wasn't, and it turns out that the dining table was the emotional bank account for their entire life. And so if they, if you weren…”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 1:03:58 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023 positive
Insight
Moesta: Churning Customers Are Still Pursuing Progress and Reveal Struggling Moments
“In churn, what's interesting is when somebody leaves your product, they're still making progress. We think it's bad for us, which it probably is, but in their mind, it's like, yeah, this was too hard and complicated, or you know what? It didn't do enough for u…”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 35:12 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023
Insight
Moesta: Customer Value Is Driven by Context and Outcomes, Not Pain Points
“It's not that I'm in pain, but it's the context that makes me value this in the moment that much more than something else. And so part of this is it's not just about, you know, pain and gain. It's about context and outcomes, right?”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 10:20 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023
Insight
Struggling moments cause customer demand, not the creation of products
“What's interesting is that at least for me, the thing is what I learned was that supply and demand are not as connected as everybody thinks. Most people think they create a product and that creates demand. But the real thing that if you start to study causalit…”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 7:45 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023 negative
Insight
Moesta: Hypothesizing customer jobs in a room is guaranteed to be 100% wrong
“One of the most dangerous things you can do is sit in a room and hypothesize what the jobs are. Cause I will guarantee you, you're 100% wrong.”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 45:26 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023
Insight
Consumers hire products to make progress, not just buy them
“Jobs to be done is this whole premise is that people hire products, right? They don't buy them. They hire them to make progress in their life.”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 5:32 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023 negative
Insight
Moesta: JTBD Fails When Consumers Have No Real Choice
“One is when there's no choice or there's no real choice... And so you start to realize where there's no real choice or where people want to make the choice obvious. It doesn't work.”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 51:13 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023
Insight
Moesta: Products Must Meet Customers Where They Are, Not Convince Them
“And you start to realize that at some point in time, it's about meeting customers where they are, not trying to wow them and not trying to convince them. They convinced themselves to make the progress.”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 11:04 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023
Insight
Moesta: Employees hire companies more than companies hire employees
“Employees actually hire companies more than companies hire employees.”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 24:58 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023 negative
Insight
Moesta: Aggregate Probability and Randomness Are Lazy Substitutes for Contextual Knowledge
“We just seem to literally not want to go deep enough. And we use the lazy word of random and probability as pseudo for knowledge. And it's not knowledge. It's literally just if context is the same, if outcomes is the same, then I can do it.”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 35:51 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023
Insight
Moesta: Products and organizations do not have jobs, only people do
“Basically only people have jobs. Products don't have jobs. People have jobs. Organizations don't have jobs. People in organizations have jobs because that's the irrational part.”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 49:42 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023
Insight
Bob Moesta outlines the six distinct phases of customer adoption
“There's actually I call them six phases. First thought, passive looking, active looking, deciding, first use, and then ongoing use. How do we build the new habit?”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 16:59 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023 positive
Insight
Moesta: Jobs to be Done research builds hypotheses rather than testing them
“In larger organizations, it's very difficult because at some point the dominant market research is, is about hypothesis testing. Right. I'm going to go build a hypothesis and go basically then go build a research project to prove or disprove that hypothesis. B…”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 41:25 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023
Assertion Not checkable as stated
93% of surveyed buyers wanted Energy Star homes, but nobody bought them
“Everybody I would survey before buying a house, I had 93% say they wanted an Energy Star compliant house. It cost 30 grand to make it Energy Star compliant at the time. And the reality is, is like nobody bought it. They all bought the finished basement. And so…”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 17:29 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Moesta: Staging demos cut Autobooks' sales cycle in half and 4x'd conversions
“And you'd think that it would take the, make the sales process longer. It actually made the sales process almost half. And at four X basically conversion, because now we meet them where they are, as opposed to where we want them to be.”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 16:38 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023 positive
Insight
Moesta: Founders should interview users about what they will stop using
“The way that I frame it is what will people stop using when your product comes out? And that's who you want to go interview.”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 43:08 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023
Insight
Moesta: Most buyers do not understand the true reasons behind purchases
“Most people don't actually know why they bought because they only think about the time they wrote the check, swiped the card.”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 38:52 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Aug 24, 2023 neutral
Insight
Moesta: Core customer jobs do not change over decades, only technologies evolve
“There are really no new jobs. Right. It's just the fact is that they, we get better at them. And so the higher fire criteria get better, but the context and outcome, most jobs, I can look back 10 years and the job existed and I can look ahead 20 years and the …”
Bob Moesta Aug 24, 2023 ▶ 43:30 The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework)
Oct 22, 2023 positive
Insight
Dunford: B2B champions need help making decisions without getting fired
“Normally when we come at this, we're like, well, how can we convince the customer that we do the job that they need to have done? And obviously we need to do that. But there is this kind of secondary job that the champion of the deal is, and that's how do I ma…”
April Dunford Oct 22, 2023 ▶ 29:02 A step-by-step guide to crafting a sales pitch that wins | April Dunford (author of Sales Pitch)
Feb 23, 2025 negative
Opinion
Job descriptions are fabricated lists of tasks managers want to avoid doing
“Job descriptions are made up. They're literally just made up and there are a list of stuff that the manager will say, all right, we want them to do this. And then they'll think of all the stuff they don't want to do. And they put that in there.”
Bob Moesta Feb 23, 2025 ▶ 27:25 How to find work you love | Bob Moesta (Jobs-to-be-Done co-creator, author of "Job Moves”)
Feb 23, 2025 negative
Insight
Arbitrary years-of-experience requirements on job postings are lazy and counterproductive
“They'll say five years experience. What I will tell you is that's one of the worst statements you can put on any job, like recruiting thing, because why five years? What is it about what this to me is a sign that you're lazy because you're saying, oh, you need…”
Bob Moesta Feb 23, 2025 ▶ 1:09:50 How to find work you love | Bob Moesta (Jobs-to-be-Done co-creator, author of "Job Moves”)
Feb 23, 2025 negative
Opinion
Book publishers pressure authors into heavy promotion despite lacking success prediction data
“The publisher put all this, they put so much pressure on you to do all these other things. And they have no data to tell you how well the book's going to do or not going to do it.”
Bob Moesta Feb 23, 2025 ▶ 1:19:18 How to find work you love | Bob Moesta (Jobs-to-be-Done co-creator, author of "Job Moves”)
Feb 23, 2025 positive
Insight
Dyslexia forces many into entrepreneurship because traditional jobs refuse to hire them
“There's a, there's an amazing amount of entrepreneurs who are dyslexic. And I attribute it back to the fact is it's because we couldn't get jobs. We just went to create our own thing. Cause we couldn't like, we had to figure out our own way to work.”
Bob Moesta Feb 23, 2025 ▶ 1:13:45 How to find work you love | Bob Moesta (Jobs-to-be-Done co-creator, author of "Job Moves”)
Feb 23, 2025 neutral
Insight
Employers can pay below-market salaries by offering superior learning experiences
“What I've realized in, and this is another kind of insight is I can actually, and this is kind of a bad way to look at it, but I can actually pay people less if I give them better experiences.”
Bob Moesta Feb 23, 2025 ▶ 37:54 How to find work you love | Bob Moesta (Jobs-to-be-Done co-creator, author of "Job Moves”)
Feb 23, 2025 neutral
Assertion Contradicted
53% of workers claiming to leave for higher pay did not actually
“Like, 53% of the people who basically said they got more money did not get more money. They told the company they had more money because they knew they couldn't argue with having them come back because they got more money.”
Bob Moesta Feb 23, 2025 ▶ 16:53 How to find work you love | Bob Moesta (Jobs-to-be-Done co-creator, author of "Job Moves”)
Feb 23, 2025 neutral
Insight
Employees will leave if company progress misaligns with their personal progress
“Ultimately if we've got to align the company's progress with their progress, because if they don't make progress, they will leave.”
Bob Moesta Feb 23, 2025 ▶ 1:09:19 How to find work you love | Bob Moesta (Jobs-to-be-Done co-creator, author of "Job Moves”)
Feb 23, 2025
Insight
Moesta: All career transitions categorize into one of four distinct quests
“When you start to look at all thousand interviews, they fall into one of four buckets. Two of them really kind of are the standard thing. One is, is this bucket of get out. ... Another quest is help me take the next step ... Help me regain control. ... The fou…”
Bob Moesta Feb 23, 2025 ▶ 12:11 How to find work you love | Bob Moesta (Jobs-to-be-Done co-creator, author of "Job Moves”)
Feb 23, 2025
Insight
Applying rigid processes ruins enjoyable tasks but helps gamify disliked ones
“What I've learned is if I wrap a process around something I love to do, I actually ruin it. But if I wrap a process about something I really hate to do and actually, and gamify it, I can actually get through it.”
Bob Moesta Feb 23, 2025 ▶ 26:59 How to find work you love | Bob Moesta (Jobs-to-be-Done co-creator, author of "Job Moves”)
Feb 23, 2025 positive
Insight
Redesigning jobs to fit individual employees ensures they will never leave
“If you actually reframe this and say, how do I get the job to fit the person? And you start to realize, like, I can change the design of the job and now they love what they do. They're never going to leave.”
Bob Moesta Feb 23, 2025 ▶ 28:33 How to find work you love | Bob Moesta (Jobs-to-be-Done co-creator, author of "Job Moves”)
Feb 23, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Moesta predicts his new book Job Moves will outshine Jobs-to-be-Done
“I think that ultimately I'll be remembered more for this book than jobs to be done, because I think There's a billion people a year who switch jobs and ultimately most of them end up with a job that's worse than the one they were at, but they don't know how to…”
Bob Moesta Feb 23, 2025 ▶ 7:06 How to find work you love | Bob Moesta (Jobs-to-be-Done co-creator, author of "Job Moves”)
Feb 23, 2025 negative
Insight
Overpaying employees causes them to become risk-averse, fearful, and dangerously passive
“When you overpay people, what happens is that, that they actually become more and more scared that they they'll lose it. And then they become more and more conservative because they don't want to rock the boat and they actually don't work. They do what they're…”
Bob Moesta Feb 23, 2025 ▶ 39:15 How to find work you love | Bob Moesta (Jobs-to-be-Done co-creator, author of "Job Moves”)
Feb 23, 2025 positive
Insight
Daily work experiences drive job retention far more than salary or title
“What you start to realize is it's the experiences that keep you at your job and the good experiences and bad experiences are the things that actually pull it together, which is how attributes work through time and space.”
Bob Moesta Feb 23, 2025 ▶ 10:03 How to find work you love | Bob Moesta (Jobs-to-be-Done co-creator, author of "Job Moves”)
Feb 23, 2025
Insight
Energy drains typically stem from a person's bottom five StrengthsFinder themes
“I always talk about strength finders and I tell people to say, I want to know the bottom five. And they're like, why is because those are the five things you really suck at. That you don't even know you suck at. And that's typically where the energy drains com…”
Bob Moesta Feb 23, 2025 ▶ 21:56 How to find work you love | Bob Moesta (Jobs-to-be-Done co-creator, author of "Job Moves”)
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