Disclosure certainty 5/5 debate potential 1/5

Katharine Graham says deciding to publish the Pentagon Papers felt unheroic

Katharine Graham · Katharine Graham: The Woman Who Took Down a President [Outliers] · Jul 29, 2025 · at 33:54

Former Washington Post publisher Katharine Graham reflects on making the fateful decision to publish the classified Pentagon Papers in 1971 against corporate legal advice.

0:00 / 0:16exact quote · 16.2s
720p mp4 · rendered on demand · StarZero watermark
“And I really was convinced by the editors and the reporters that they were right, and that we really had to go ahead. And so I really gulped, and I really was not what your heroic leader is. I just said, oh, go ahead.”

quote is from the automated transcript, cleaned for reading: filler sounds and stutters are removed, nothing is rephrased. names can be misheard (the analysis reads context, assessments check outside sources). how →

Made with StarZero

Turn any episode into a week of clips.

This entire site, over 200 episodes transcribed, diarized, checked and made playable, runs on the StarZero media pipeline. Drop in your own episode and the podcast clipper finds the moments worth sharing, cuts them, captions them, and reframes them for every feed.