Edward Hieatt is Chief Customer Officer at Mechanical Orchard. He explains why Pivotal Labs founder Rob Mee started Mechanical Orchard to tackle legacy enterprise mainframe modernization.
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“But this problem of the very oldest, you know, I'm talking about systems from the sixties, seventies we never really cracked that at pivotal. So he wanted to come back to that and revisit it and make a company just about that, dedicated to that problem of modernizing, let's call it mainframe and mainframe era systems.”
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