product manager

also referred to as: pms · product managers

15 statements across 10 episodes · 3 bullish · 5 bearish · 10 people on the record · first statement Jun 22, 2023 by Tara Seshan · across every show →

Everything said about product manager, oldest first

Jun 22, 2023 positive
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Seshan: High-potential hires generate more value than experienced, prestigious candidates
“Hungry and high potential person who's dedicated to growing quickly can build more value for the business than a statusy or experienced person who is less high potential.”
Tara Seshan Jun 22, 2023 ▶ 13:15 Lessons from Stripe on adding new products | Tara Seshan (Watershed, Stripe)
Jul 13, 2023
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Weiss: Product Teams Should Hire PMs with Distinct Spikes, Not Generalists
“No one person we hire looks like a perfect sphere. Right? So what we look for actually is people who have clear spikes on one or two of those axes, and also is well-rounded, but what are their superpowers? It's one of the things we talk about when we bring som…”
Noah Desai Weiss Jul 13, 2023 ▶ 17:24 Lessons from Slack on decision making, product-led growth, and taking big swings | Noah Desai Weiss
Jul 13, 2023 negative
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Weiss: Product managers acting like "mini-CEOs" alienate their teams
“I will tell you that people who take the approach of being a mini CEO for a team are the ones who their teams wind up saying, why do we have to have a product manager on our team? Can't we do it without them? Because, you know, you can wind up accidentally bei…”
Noah Desai Weiss Jul 13, 2023 ▶ 37:36 Lessons from Slack on decision making, product-led growth, and taking big swings | Noah Desai Weiss
Oct 26, 2023
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GitLab pairs product marketers directly with product managers to prioritize features
“So we've built a product marketing team that is Getting deeper and deeper. They're matched with product managers, and they're getting deeper and deeper into how our product works and understanding the value of it to really want the product managers to come tog…”
Ashley Kramer Oct 26, 2023 ▶ 43:40 The business of growing and monetizing an open source product | Ashley Kramer (GitLab CMO/CSO)
Jan 25, 2024 negative
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Lopp: Bad Product Managers Strip Engineers of Creative Agency and Invention
“The bad ones create a scenario where engineering doesn't feel like they have a vote in what gets built. And the, this 29% time that we're talking about here is one of my countermeasures to that, in that an engineering culture where they don't feel they can inv…”
Michael Lopp Jan 25, 2024 ▶ 20:10 The human side of world-class engineering leadership | Michael Lopp (Apple, Palantir, Slack)
Feb 1, 2024 neutral
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Berner: Scaling past a dozen CSMs creates product coordination bottlenecks
“As the team grows, you sort of end up with sort of a coordination problem where not every product manager can speak with every CS rep, especially when you know, you have a dozen, maybe 15, you know, reps on the CS side and only a handful of product managers. A…”
Stephanie Berner Feb 1, 2024 ▶ 43:15 A customer success masterclass | How to build and scale a CS org | Stephanie Berner (LinkedIn)
Feb 8, 2024 positive
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Great product leaders identify the right answer 70% of the time
“Somebody with good judgment seven times out of 10 will probably pick up on the right answer with less data.”
Michael Cieri Feb 8, 2024 ▶ 47:28 Lessons from Gusto & Square on Finding Your Product Wedge | Michael Cieri
Feb 8, 2024 negative
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Struggling product managers merely present options instead of making definitive decisions
“I think the product people that I see struggle the most are the ones that just like, can't really make that like, well, here's all the options. And I'm like, well, it's your job to tell us what we're going to do. So what are we going to do?”
Michael Cieri Feb 8, 2024 ▶ 48:52 Lessons from Gusto & Square on Finding Your Product Wedge | Michael Cieri
May 16, 2024
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Desai: Product managers must reject bespoke features, even for $10M deals
“The art of saying no is the best thing a product manager can do to actually eventually win in a product, right? Because you, typically have like one company. You're basically jamming their features. Oh, I'm paying you ten million dollars. You've got to do this…”
Milin Desai May 16, 2024 ▶ 40:57 Lessons from Sentry on scaling DevTools and finding product market fit (again) | Milin Desai (CEO)
Oct 10, 2024 positive
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Gupta: Sales engineering is an ideal background for product managers
“I have a few people on my team that before they did product did sales roles, SE type role, like sales engineers. I think that's an amazing background to have because then you have an understanding of what does it really take to sell a product before you have, …”
Anneka Gupta Oct 10, 2024 ▶ 42:16 Shifting Career Altitudes: Insights from a CPO That's Led Nearly Every Function | Anneka Gupta
Oct 10, 2024
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Rubrik Mandates Sales Certification and Pitch Training for Product Managers
“We've started having new product managers go through the sales engineering training. We just launched a new first meeting deck at the company and did a big training with our sellers. All the sellers have to certify, get certified on the first meeting deck. And…”
Anneka Gupta Oct 10, 2024 ▶ 57:11 Shifting Career Altitudes: Insights from a CPO That's Led Nearly Every Function | Anneka Gupta
Oct 23, 2025 negative
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Stauch: Traditional software customer feedback loops take months to reach engineering
“Traditionally you've got solutions engineers, you've got customer success staff, sales, AE, they talk to customers. Maybe the SE here is a good idea. They communicate that to a product manager. Product manager talks to the engineering manager about that. Maybe…”
Jake Stauch Oct 23, 2025 ▶ 50:27 Go hard early: How lessons from Verkada shaped this AI-native IT platform | Jake Stauch (Serval)
Oct 23, 2025 bearish
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Stauch: Product-oriented forward-deployed engineers will reduce PM and SE hiring
“I think the need for a lot of product managers is probably going to go down. If you hire really product oriented for deployed software engineers, then they're going to be increasingly making the decisions on what makes sense to build for the max Some number of…”
Jake Stauch Oct 23, 2025 ▶ 54:34 Go hard early: How lessons from Verkada shaped this AI-native IT platform | Jake Stauch (Serval)
Oct 23, 2025
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Stauch: Verkada scaled to 1,000 employees with only two product managers
“I mean, Verkata was a thousand people and had two PMs.”
Jake Stauch Oct 23, 2025 ▶ 58:21 Go hard early: How lessons from Verkada shaped this AI-native IT platform | Jake Stauch (Serval)
Mar 19, 2026
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Non-technical PMs struggle to appreciate engineering pain and technical debt
“There's definitely product managers who I think they're, they don't know enough about the technical side, which can be fine, but like can't really appreciate the pain engineering is going through and like what on call is like because like they've never really …”
Jeremy Epling Mar 19, 2026 ▶ 1:00:36 The product wisdom every CPO should ignore | Jeremy Epling (CPO, Vanta)
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