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Answered produced feed D 5 · C 5 · P 5 · Cm 4 4.85

Q export expansion? You know, the, the gas industry has long said, of course we would want to Burn gas in place of coal, and, uh, over the last decade, it's become pretty clear that gas isn't as clean as initially touted. Just tell us, why is that the case, and what is some of the current researchers, research around LNG emissions specifically mean for the climate impact of this expansion?

A Sure. You burn gas, you produce carbon dioxide. Carbon dioxide heats the atmosphere. But you produce less carbon dioxide than you do when you burn coal, so for a while people were like, well, think of it as diet coal, you know, and at least it's better than what we're doing now. Science, as usual, has a way of interfering with all the things that people want to do. When scientists started looking more closely, they realized that unburned natural gas leaks out into the atmosphere. Molecule for molecule, it's like 80 times better at trapping heat than CO₂. So even a little tiny bit of stuff leaking out in the atmosphere is enough to negate whatever small advantage it ever had. It's been clear for years now that natural gas used domestically, because a lot of it leaks out, is pretty much akin to using coal, and now we have really interesting new data from Bob Howarth that Cornell, the kind of dean of methane scientists, who's done the work to show that when you put all this stuff on a boat and send it halfway around the world, the amount that leaks out in that whole process makes it way worse than coal. So that's where a lot of the concern comes from. I would add, though, that it's almost dumb at this point for us to even be comparing it with coal, because that's no longer the logical comparison. We now live, and this is what's changed over the last 10 or 15 years, we now live on …

AI assessment note: “new data from Bob Howarth that Cornell... makes it way worse than coal.”

Answered produced feed D 5 · C 5 · P 4 · Cm 4 4.60

Q so you, you and Nicole Pollack had a conversation recently at Canary Media, and You talked to her about this issue and, and said that it actually snuck up on you, and Jeremy said the same thing, that it took a lot of people by surprise. So, um, you know, many in the environmental movement are coming around on this now. Like, when did the consequences become clear for you?

A Well, I gotta say, I was reading some of the stuff that Jeremy, I mean, I've been writing about, uh, domestic natural gas for a long time, and was one of the first to kind of sound the alarm that said this stuff actually exists. Isn't any better than coal, and we should be dealing with it. That was like a decade ago, but I hadn't been paying attention to the absolute scale of this boom in export LNG, and then Jeremy started producing figures that were showing things like this was going to wipe out everything that America had done on, on greenhouse gases since the turn of the century, that if we let it go all the way that the LNG industry wants, Soon enough, American LNG exports will be producing more greenhouse gas emissions than everything that goes on in Europe. I mean, it's not good news that we found a new continent full of greenhouse gas emissions. That's the last thing we need in the world.

AI assessment note: “then Jeremy started producing figures that were showing things like this was going to wipe”

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