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Ricks: PBM rebate incentives should be eliminated as unethical

Dave Ricks · Dave Ricks, CEO of Eli Lilly, on GLP-1s and the business of pharma · Nov 11, 2025 · at 39:48

Dave Ricks, CEO of Eli Lilly, criticizes how healthcare intermediaries profit from high list prices and create price disparities.

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“These PBMs and there's some group purchasing organizations like this. That should go away. And I think health is different than other commodities. It's probably has a much more important social role in deciding that the smallest, the little guy gets the worst deal and the big guy gets the best deal to me feels unethical.”

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