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Q Was there something that demonstrated to the outside world that, oh, they got this? Was it Gemini three that changed people's minds or like, I don't follow all the timelines.
A I think, I think the real model, uh, probably where People, uh, saw it was maybe Gemini at 2.5. Um, and, you know, I'm getting to the frontier on Particularly around multimodality. We made a bunch of, I mean, credit to the Google DeepMind teams, right? They, we, I think we paid a bit more of a fixed cost upfront, but we designed the Gemini models to be very multimodal from day one. And so there were, there were areas, uh, I think, I think, um, we started, the strength started showing. Nano Banana was an example of it, right? So you were able to see it all together. But look, it's an amazing, amazingly dynamic frontier. I think there are two to three labs who are pushing each other pretty vigorously. You know, at any given month, we feel like, oh great, we've done this well. Oh shit, there's like a couple things we're behind, right? But I think the picture will again be dynamic in a few months. So I think the frontier is intense as you would expect it to be. So that's how I think about it.
AI assessment note: “the real model, uh, probably where People, uh, saw it was maybe Gemini at 2.5”
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Q executive has severe AI psychosis right now, and is spending, you know, a huge amount of time writing code and talk to AI and things like that. I thought that was a funny take and not without Any truth to it? And I'm curious, what were your feeling the AGI moments along the way of the recent, or, you know, to what extent do you have AI psychosis these days?
A My first feeling the AGI moment was, uh, uh, when Jeff Dean demoed the earliest version of Google Brain. This is when the neural networks recognized a cat, right? So that was in I went with Larry to the DARPA challenge. It might have been in the year, I think I need to be exact about when we went there, seeing the cars drive there. Demest demoing the earliest versions of the models, having what we would call as imagination. So there have been many moments like that so it was obvious the technology is progressing. In terms of living now and kind of having a visceral feel for it, I think the closest I would say is if you're coding and you give it a complex task and you never open the IDE and you're in some agent manager world and you see it kind of do it, You know, and how powerful it is. So, you know, if you can, you know, call it field AGI. So there are moments like that.
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