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Assertion Not checkable as stated
Steyer: Farallon eventually became Goldman Sachs's largest clearing client
“And then over time, I was Goldman's biggest clearing customer.”
Tom Steyer Mar 6, 2023 ▶ 1:12:44 Tom Steyer – Investing to Save Humanity (Climate Solutions EP.1, Capital Allocators EP. 300)
Assertion Supported
Steyer: Goldman Sachs had zero China staff and two in Hong Kong in 1983-1985
“Goldman Sachs, which was, as I said, I think the premier investment bank in the world, when I worked there in 1983 to 1985, had zero people in China and two people in Hong Kong.”
Tom Steyer Mar 6, 2023 ▶ 20:01 Tom Steyer – Investing to Save Humanity (Climate Solutions EP.1, Capital Allocators EP. 300)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Steyer managed half of Goldman's risk arb but earned 0.1% of profits
“My last year at Goldman Sachs, just to put it in a context of investment, I was running half of the investments for the art group. They paid me one 10th of one percent of the income from the art group.”
Tom Steyer Mar 6, 2023 ▶ 16:39 Tom Steyer – Investing to Save Humanity (Climate Solutions EP.1, Capital Allocators EP. 300)
Assertion Supported
Lemkau, Robert Smith, and Mark McMorris launched Goldman's West Coast tech M&A
“It was a guy named Mark McMorris, who went on to go work at General Atlantic for a long time, and then Robert Smith, who eventually went on to go found Vista Equity, and me, the three of us went out there, all the same associate class, like three musketeers st…”
Gregg Lemkau Jan 9, 2023 ▶ 8:31 Gregg Lemkau - The Evolution of MSD (Capital Allocators, EP.291)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Brosens: Risk arb drove the lion's share of Goldman's risk in the 1980s
“Most of the risk at the time at Goldman Sachs was taken in the arbitrage area. There was very little risk being taken elsewhere in the firm. Jay Aaron had not yet been bought. They really didn't take an awful lot of risk in the fixed income side. The lion's sh…”
Frank Brosens Nov 21, 2022 ▶ 12:49 Frank Brosens – Culture and Partnership at Taconic Capital (Capital Allocators, EP.282)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Brosens: Goldman risk arb grew to nearly $1B in capital by 1987
“I think we had a couple hundred million dollars worth of risk at the time when we started. It grew so that by the time I started running the area in early 87, we were running close to a billion dollars worth of capital.”
Frank Brosens Nov 21, 2022 ▶ 13:32 Frank Brosens – Culture and Partnership at Taconic Capital (Capital Allocators, EP.282)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Brosens: Goldman risk arb lost 4% ($40M) in 1987 crash with 70% cash
“We came into about 70% cash. We were down four. We had a number of hedges in place. So Not unreasonable, but four percent of a billion dollars was 40,000,040 million to the partners was a very large loss.”
Frank Brosens Nov 21, 2022 ▶ 17:07 Frank Brosens – Culture and Partnership at Taconic Capital (Capital Allocators, EP.282)
Insight
Brosens: Robert Rubin's investment philosophy centered on managing uncertainty and downside risk
“Bob's philosophy was one of uncertainty. He wrote a book on it where you couldn't know things for sure. You had to know what could go wrong. You had to estimate the probability of that thing going wrong and effectively being humble about your confidence level …”
Frank Brosens Nov 21, 2022 ▶ 15:28 Frank Brosens – Culture and Partnership at Taconic Capital (Capital Allocators, EP.282)
Disclosure
KKR Prepaid for Goldman Sachs Financial Coaching for C.H.I. Workers
“I think we've gotten it right on the back end in terms of when we sold the business, prepaying for financial coaching with Goldman Sachs, prepaying for tax help to make sure people appropriately and timely file their taxes.”
Pete Stavros Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 40:25 SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: Private Equity Deals Podcast
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Libby: GETCO executed more orders in a minute than Goldman did daily
“Just to give people a sense, GetGo traded more orders in a minute than all of Goldman's clients at the time in a day.”
Billy Libby May 23, 2022 ▶ 8:00 Billy Libby – Disruptive Venture Funding at Upper90 (Capital Allocators, EP.251)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Salem: Providence did more deals with Goldman Sachs PIA than any other PE firm
“We did more deals with Goldman Sachs PIA, you know, private equity division of Goldman Sachs than any other private equity firm because they knew we weren't a threat.”
Paul Salem Feb 1, 2021 ▶ 22:01 Private Equity Masters: Paul Salem – Providence Equity Partners (Capital Allocators, EP.175)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Al Gore asked Goldman Sachs to advise on a $35M sustainability acquisition
“Phil had been approached by Al Gore about Goldman Sachs representing Gore in acquiring a company called Sustainable Asset Management. And it was a very small acquisition. I think it would have been thirty-five million dollars or something like that, an acquisi…”
David Blood Jun 22, 2020 ▶ 15:25 Sustainable Investing 5: David Blood - Pioneering a Generation (Capital Allocators, EP.143)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Novogratz: Goldman desk made hundreds of millions on 1997 Asian crisis
“Goldman Sachs, Asia's blowing up, and we predicted it, had the foresight, and had some spectacularly highly leveraged bets that Asia would blow up that we were smart enough to figure out. It wasn't, I had so much courage that I took all this risk to make a for…”
Mike Novogratz Aug 12, 2019 ▶ 12:38 Michael Novogratz – Galaxy Digital (First Meeting, EP.06)
Opinion
The 1980s era under Weinberg and Whitehead was Goldman's golden era
“I personally think, and I know they're more profitable today and so forth, but that that was a golden era for Goldman Sachs. It was run by John Weinberg and John Whitehead, but other leaders like Bill Gruber and Roy Zuckerberg and Richard Menchel and so forth.”
Jon Hirtle May 6, 2019 ▶ 9:53 Jon Hirtle – The Pioneer of OCIO (Capital Allocators, EP.98)
Assertion Supported
Baumgartner: 2014–2018 equity returns doubled consensus forecasts while volatility halved
“Back in 2013, 20 14, you've got bears projecting low returns... You've got folks like Goldman and JP Morgan, and the folks who publish capital market expectations, and you see, eh, equities, seven percent annualized return, 15% vol... Now, you fast forward fiv…”
Mark Baumgartner Nov 26, 2018 ▶ 28:33 Mark Baumgartner – Luck, Risk and Uncertainty at the Institute for Advanced Study (Capital Allocators, EP.77)
Assertion Partly supported
Goldman Sachs did not distribute research notes to clients until 1964
“In fact, Goldman Sachs didn't start sending things out until 64 or five, and that was just one of the salesmen thought it might be an interesting idea to put Four sides of sheet of paper. Little information on four different possible investments. He was doing …”
Charlie Ellis Jul 30, 2018 ▶ 18:49 Charley Ellis - Indexing and Its Alternatives (EP.62)
Assertion Supported
Lydon: Smart beta fees are down to nine bps at Goldman
“You can get a smart beta strategy at Goldman for nine basis points. You have pure beta strategies now for four.”
Tom Lydon Jun 11, 2018 ▶ 22:21 Tom Lydon – ETF Trends (Capital Allocators, EP.56)
Assertion Supported
Goldman Sachs employs 12,000 software developers, per Auby
“I heard a statistic saying they have 12,000 developers now at Goldman, which is just an astronomical number if you think about that”
Jace Auby Sep 9, 2024 ▶ 7:21 Jase Auby - Risk, Size, and Talent at Texas Teachers (EP.404)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Sack: Joining Goldman Sachs over dot-com startups was unpopular in early 2000
“Went back there after business school, which was very unpopular in March, February of 2000. You were really viewed quite negatively, and Unimaginatively, if you were going back into these, when you could be working at pets.com.”
Aaron Sack Apr 27, 2023 ▶ 7:06 Aaron Sack – Branded Middle Market Investing at Morgan Stanley (Capital Allocators, EP.311)
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Steyer: Goldman's risk arb desk was profitable every year in the 1970s
“But the Goldman Arb group managed to make money every year through the seventies.”
Tom Steyer Mar 6, 2023 ▶ 11:42 Tom Steyer – Investing to Save Humanity (Climate Solutions EP.1, Capital Allocators EP. 300)
Insight
Persisting with hostile clients during financial crises builds enduring relationships
“Those early days of the financial crisis were scary, but it also ended up being incredibly character building because you go out there while you're probably the pariah to society and you go and build relationships with clients who are predisposed to not want t…”
Gregg Lemkau Jan 9, 2023 ▶ 11:01 Gregg Lemkau - The Evolution of MSD (Capital Allocators, EP.291)
Disclosure
Goldman promoted Davis to distressed desk because external hires cost 3x
“And in the end, they asked me and another guy to co-manage the distressed bond desk there. I think we were doing a reasonably good job, but I also found out after the fact that everyone else was asking three times what they were paying me to come in and take t…”
Tony Davis Jun 29, 2020 ▶ 10:27 Sustainable Investing 7: Tony Davis – Hedge Fund Perspective at Inherent Group (Capital Allocators, EP.145)
Assertion Contradicted
Davis: There were no utility bankruptcies for 20 years before Enron and PG&E
“So, you know, at that point, I don't think there'd been a utility bankruptcy in two decades and lo and behold, We had Enron. And then we had Pacific Gas and Electric the first time around.”
Tony Davis Jun 29, 2020 ▶ 9:28 Sustainable Investing 7: Tony Davis – Hedge Fund Perspective at Inherent Group (Capital Allocators, EP.145)
Disclosure
Blood: Voted against taking Goldman Sachs public in 1998 and 1999
“I was very committed to Goldman Sachs and its business principles and culture, and I was one of the partners who voted to stay private in 1999, actually originally in 1998.”
David Blood Jun 22, 2020 ▶ 13:01 Sustainable Investing 5: David Blood - Pioneering a Generation (Capital Allocators, EP.143)
Disclosure
Goldman Sachs considered and rejected launching an online broker in 1996
“I was actually asked In 1996 to consider whether Goldman Sachs should set up an online discount broker. Which we ultimately included was a bad idea”
David Blood Jun 22, 2020 ▶ 11:34 Sustainable Investing 5: David Blood - Pioneering a Generation (Capital Allocators, EP.143)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
George Walker created Goldman Sachs's first outsourced CIO practice
“George Walker, who's now running Neuberger, had come up with this idea that I really described as the first outsource CIO at Goldman. We were over the wall working with large institutional families, a lot of times pre-transaction.”
Jon Harris Jul 29, 2019 ▶ 13:59 Jon Harris – Investing in People at AIM (Capital Allocators, EP.105)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Scaramucci: Fired from Goldman Sachs real estate group after 18 months
“My first day on the job was August 1419 89, I got fired from the job on February first, 1991, so I was only there for 18 months.”
Anthony Scaramucci Jul 9, 2018 ▶ 8:48 Anthony Scaramucci – It's Called a Mooch (Capital Allocators, EP.60)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Scaramucci: Rehired at Goldman Sachs in 1991 as interdepartmental transfer
“And on March 2819 91, I got rehired at Goldman Sachs. And now the best part of this story Is the personnel director for the division called me and said, hey, you know, you got really good news for you. You're never going to have to tell anybody you got fired. …”
Anthony Scaramucci Jul 9, 2018 ▶ 10:35 Anthony Scaramucci – It's Called a Mooch (Capital Allocators, EP.60)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Goldman Sachs hired only 18 global analysts in 1992, says Seides
“I remember interviewing at Wall Street and Goldman Sachs investment banking program had 18 global analysts.”
Ted Seides Dec 18, 2017 ▶ 9:29 Deep Dive into Hedge Funds (Capital Allocators, EP.34)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Solomon: Hedge funds evolved from 1980s Wall Street prop desk spinouts
“If you think about the way the hedge fund business evolved, it evolved from people who were on the prop desks, you know, Goldman Sachs, Lehman Brothers, you know, all these different places in the eighties, and they spun out and started their own firms Largely…”
Jeffrey Solomon May 30, 2017 ▶ 12:09 Jeffrey Solomon – Vision, Tenacity, and Empathy (Capital Allocators, EP.09)
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