John Khoury, founder of Long Pond Capital, highlights Hyatt as an example of a lodging company successfully transitioning from an asset-heavy to an asset-light model.
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“Hyatt, when they came public, they owned 70% real estate and generated 30% of their income from management franchise. Today, it's 80% management franchise and 20% owned and leased.”
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