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Khoury: Sunbelt Apartments Due for Rent Surge as Ratios Hit 19%

John Khoury · John Khoury – Asymmetry and Opportunity in Public Real Estate at Long Pond (EP.474) · Dec 1, 2025 · at 42:36

Long Pond Capital founder John Khoury argues that flat rents and rising incomes in Sunbelt multifamily create pent-up pricing power.

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“Rent to income in the Sunbelt Has been going lower and lower and lower every year. So once you get back to equilibrium, we're of the view that it's not going to be, oh, we're back at equilibrium. We're going to grow a little bit. You're back with equilibrium. In the case of many of these markets, a healthy rent to income is about 22%. In these publics, you're down to about 19%. Not only are you going to get the normal growth, but you're going to get this 19 to 22 catch up.”

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