Rob Hale

Co-CEO and Partner, ValueAct Capital · 1 appearance on the record.

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D. Robert Hale joined activist investment firm ValueAct Capital in 2011 and serves as Co-CEO alongside Mason Morfit. He leads ValueAct's investment and engagement efforts in Japan and has served on the boards of major public companies, including Olympus Corporation, JSR Corporation, MSCI Inc., and Bausch Health Companies.

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The record, in short

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Assertion Supported

Hale: Japan ranks second globally for high-margin billion-dollar public companies

“The number one market Is the U S with about a thousand companies with over a billion market cap and above 40% gross margins. The number two market is Japan with 250. After that, you get to numbers around 50 to a hundred in countries in Europe.”

Rob Hale Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 51:24 Mason Morfit and Rob Hale – Quiet Activism at ValueAct (EP.462)

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What they said9 Episodes1

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Insight

Hale: Activist funds fail when they act as campaigners instead of investors

“Part of the reason that activist investing has had its cycles and not every activist investor has survived those cycles because a lot of practitioners of the industry have been excellent campaigners, great users of the media, but not necessarily great investor…”

Rob Hale Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 21:28 Mason Morfit and Rob Hale – Quiet Activism at ValueAct (EP.462)

Insight

Hale: Strong franchises tolerate capital misallocation for a decade; commodity businesses bankrupt

“If you're a steel company or an airliner and you're in some commodity industry and you misallocate capital for 10 years, you go bankrupt. Someone takes you over. If you're Microsoft, if you're Adobe, if you have a very strong franchise and you don't necessaril…”

Rob Hale Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 23:37 Mason Morfit and Rob Hale – Quiet Activism at ValueAct (EP.462)

Insight

Hale: Activist ideas are almost never novel to internal company employees

“Usually when we're investing in a company, there are a lot of people inside the company who see the exact same opportunity that we see. It's almost never the case that we have some idea that nobody in the company has ever thought of.”

Rob Hale Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 1:03:45 Mason Morfit and Rob Hale – Quiet Activism at ValueAct (EP.462)

Insight

Hale: Rebuilding cost structures from zero base beats relying on 10-Ks

“That analysis of let's just ignore what you see in the 10 K. Let's just build up zero base. What does this business cost structure look like? That is by far, I think the most important exercise that we do early in our due diligence process.”

Rob Hale Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 36:30 Mason Morfit and Rob Hale – Quiet Activism at ValueAct (EP.462)

Assertion Supported

Hale: Japan ranks second globally for high-margin billion-dollar public companies

Rob Hale Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 51:24 Mason Morfit and Rob Hale – Quiet Activism at ValueAct (EP.462)

Insight

Hale: Activists in Japan must ask 'yes when' to avoid decade-long delays

“One thing that we've learned to focus on is when you hear yes, you always have to ask yes when, because yes can mean yes, but in 10 years after I've retired, and you want to make sure that that's not the source of the misunderstanding.”

Rob Hale Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 55:01 Mason Morfit and Rob Hale – Quiet Activism at ValueAct (EP.462)

Assertion Partly supported

Hale: ValueAct has participated in 27 CEO succession processes

“There have been 27 cases where we've been involved in CEO succession.”

Rob Hale Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 32:14 Mason Morfit and Rob Hale – Quiet Activism at ValueAct (EP.462)

Assertion Supported

Hale: ValueAct launched only two proxy contests across 125 historical investments

“In our entire history, we've only had two proxy contests, over 125 investments, 55 board seats, only two proxy contests.”

Rob Hale Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 47:02 Mason Morfit and Rob Hale – Quiet Activism at ValueAct (EP.462)

Assertion Supported

Hale: Seven & i Holdings was the largest proxy contest in Japan's history

“The second one was in Japan. It was the largest ever proxy contest in Japan, a company called Seven and I Holdings.”

Rob Hale Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 48:56 Mason Morfit and Rob Hale – Quiet Activism at ValueAct (EP.462)

Appearances (1)

Episode	Date	Speaking time
Mason Morfit and Rob Hale – Quiet Activism at ValueAct (EP.462)	Sep 29, 2025	26m

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