Jon Madorsky

Managing Partner, RCP Advisors · 1 appearance on the record.

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Jon Madorsky oversees secondary investment strategy and portfolio construction at RCP Advisors, focusing on North American lower middle market buyout transactions. He joined RCP Advisors over 20 years ago during the launch of RCP Fund II and serves on the firm's Investment Committee.

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4 predictions · 16 assertions · 4 insights · 1 disclosure · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertions are the 20 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 14 are resolved, and 6 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

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What the tape says about how Jon argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
Madorsky: Most secondary market volume is strategic, not distressed
“In today's world, the majority of the volume that we see is probably executed around portfolio construction. And there's a lot of reasons to sell. Sometimes managers are over allocated to private equity. Limited partners are over allocated to private equity. L…”
Jon Madorsky May 29, 2025 ▶ 17:17 Jon Madorsky – Navigating the Evolution of Private Equity Secondaries (EP.448)

Their most notable contradicted claim

Assertion Contradicted
Madorsky: Lower middle market buyouts historically outperform other PE classes
“And we also have the benefit that lower middle market, using Prequen data, that's historically outperformed all the other sub-asset classes.”
Jon Madorsky May 29, 2025 ▶ 21:26 Jon Madorsky – Navigating the Evolution of Private Equity Secondaries (EP.448)

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Everything Jon Madorsky said on Capital Allocators that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Prediction Not checkable as stated
Madorsky: Retail capital will force secondaries into customer service businesses
“I think some of those reporting mechanisms are probably going to be expected by a lot of our limited partners, especially the retail community will push that idea in a pretty acute way. So it's going to move to a business of customer service. As much as invest…”
Jon Madorsky May 29, 2025 ▶ 52:23 Jon Madorsky – Navigating the Evolution of Private Equity Secondaries (EP.448)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Madorsky: 40 Act funds pay 200-500 bps premium on secondaries
“Investment bankers would claim that the 40 Act funds are paying anywhere between 205 hundred basis points more than a typical fund. So it's putting pressure on the pricing.”
Jon Madorsky May 29, 2025 ▶ 35:21 Jon Madorsky – Navigating the Evolution of Private Equity Secondaries (EP.448)
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Madorsky: Secondary market volume could easily reach $400B to $600B
“Yeah, we could very easily see all of the secondary volume get to 406 hundred billion dollars.”
Jon Madorsky May 29, 2025 ▶ 38:05 Jon Madorsky – Navigating the Evolution of Private Equity Secondaries (EP.448)
Insight
Madorsky: Multi-asset GP-leds enable early exits for weaker assets
“In a multi-asset GP-led transaction, we afford the availability and we push GPs to get rid of those Weaker performing assets. Because all of the assets are getting reset at a price, and all of the economics are getting reset, if the GP sells their underperform…”
Jon Madorsky May 29, 2025 ▶ 44:56 Jon Madorsky – Navigating the Evolution of Private Equity Secondaries (EP.448)
Assertion Partly supported
Madorsky: Actual PE fund lifespans stretch to 15 to 18 years
“It's not 10 years the life of a fund. It's not 12 years the life of the fund plus the two-year extensions. It's 15 to 18 years.”
Jon Madorsky May 29, 2025 ▶ 47:44 Jon Madorsky – Navigating the Evolution of Private Equity Secondaries (EP.448)
Insight
Madorsky: Retail capital influx pressures fund managers toward secondaries
“I think when that capital comes into the market, there's pressure on those managers to invest it quickly, so therefore, secondaries is a natural avenue for that.”
Jon Madorsky May 29, 2025 ▶ 13:41 Jon Madorsky – Navigating the Evolution of Private Equity Secondaries (EP.448)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Madorsky: Astonishing volume of PE asset sales failed in 2022 and 2023
“The amount of failed transactions that occurred in 2022 and 23 primary managers trying to sell their assets was astonishing. Effectively, unless it was a perfect asset, it wasn't going to trade.”
Jon Madorsky May 29, 2025 ▶ 15:35 Jon Madorsky – Navigating the Evolution of Private Equity Secondaries (EP.448)
Assertion Supported
Madorsky: Most secondary market volume is strategic, not distressed
“In today's world, the majority of the volume that we see is probably executed around portfolio construction. And there's a lot of reasons to sell. Sometimes managers are over allocated to private equity. Limited partners are over allocated to private equity. L…”
Jon Madorsky May 29, 2025 ▶ 17:17 Jon Madorsky – Navigating the Evolution of Private Equity Secondaries (EP.448)
Assertion Contradicted
Madorsky: Lower middle market buyouts historically outperform other PE classes
“And we also have the benefit that lower middle market, using Prequen data, that's historically outperformed all the other sub-asset classes.”
Jon Madorsky May 29, 2025 ▶ 21:26 Jon Madorsky – Navigating the Evolution of Private Equity Secondaries (EP.448)
Disclosure
Madorsky: Up to 85% of RCP's secondary returns come from appreciation
“So much so that when you deconstruct our returns, about 80 to 85% of our total returns has been through appreciation, not through discount.”
Jon Madorsky May 29, 2025 ▶ 22:58 Jon Madorsky – Navigating the Evolution of Private Equity Secondaries (EP.448)
Prediction Held up
Madorsky: AI will build initial PE financial models within three years
“In three years, certainly AI will be able to create a first or second run at our models. It might not be able to fine tune or drive a lot of the assumptions that we need the qualitative rich data that we're collecting, but to actually create and populate the E…”
Jon Madorsky May 29, 2025 ▶ 28:45 Jon Madorsky – Navigating the Evolution of Private Equity Secondaries (EP.448)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Madorsky: Post-2022, LPs shifted focus from top valuations to liquidity
“But beginning in 2022, where liquidity really dried up in the market, limited partners recognized the value of the secondary market to drive liquidity in their portfolios. So, rather than saying, we don't feel like we're getting top dollar, I think a lot of li…”
Jon Madorsky May 29, 2025 ▶ 30:24 Jon Madorsky – Navigating the Evolution of Private Equity Secondaries (EP.448)
Assertion Contradicted
Madorsky: Retail funds dominated large secondary portfolio purchases in 2024
“When we've seen a lot of the larger portfolios and even a lot of the limited partnership positions trade in 2024, the retail funds have been the main connoisseur of this product.”
Jon Madorsky May 29, 2025 ▶ 33:13 Jon Madorsky – Navigating the Evolution of Private Equity Secondaries (EP.448)
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Madorsky: PE will split into index, active, and boutique tiers
“I can imagine a space where private equity looks a little bit like the public equity manager market does today, where you have some people that are focused on almost like an index. That would be a pure retail product. Then you will have some folks that are cha…”
Jon Madorsky May 29, 2025 ▶ 33:39 Jon Madorsky – Navigating the Evolution of Private Equity Secondaries (EP.448)
Assertion Supported
Madorsky: Average PE portfolio company hold period now exceeds six years
“When we first started, the average assumption on a company being held in a portfolio was four and a half to five and a half years. I think today that same assumption is probably six years plus.”
Jon Madorsky May 29, 2025 ▶ 37:23 Jon Madorsky – Navigating the Evolution of Private Equity Secondaries (EP.448)
Assertion Supported
Madorsky: Five or more of top 10 PE firms are secondary players
“In 2010, of the top 10 biggest private equity firms globally, one or two of them were secondary players. If you look at it today, it's a handful or more. Meaning, secondary players are raising much bigger funds.”
Jon Madorsky May 29, 2025 ▶ 39:06 Jon Madorsky – Navigating the Evolution of Private Equity Secondaries (EP.448)
Assertion Partly supported
Madorsky: Leonard Green, Advent, and New Mountain are raising GP-led funds
“A couple of them have already announced that they're raising funds, whether that's Leonard Green, Advec, New Mountain, and then a couple are quietly poking into the background.”
Jon Madorsky May 29, 2025 ▶ 39:48 Jon Madorsky – Navigating the Evolution of Private Equity Secondaries (EP.448)
Insight
Madorsky: Traditional PE managers cut their flowers and water their weeds
“Historically in private equity, just on the principal investing side, managers had sold their best companies very early and got stuck with their worst companies. They cut their flowers and watered their weeds.”
Jon Madorsky May 29, 2025 ▶ 44:38 Jon Madorsky – Navigating the Evolution of Private Equity Secondaries (EP.448)
Assertion Supported
Madorsky: PE secondary market volume grew from $20B to $180B since 2010
“When you look at the 2010 volume, it was right around twenty billion dollars. So let's mark our growth of the industry with the volume size... So twenty billion dollars, In 2010, a 170 or eighty billion dollars in 2024.”
Jon Madorsky May 29, 2025 ▶ 9:46 Jon Madorsky – Navigating the Evolution of Private Equity Secondaries (EP.448)
Assertion Supported
Madorsky: GP-led deals reached half of secondary volume by 2020
“By 2020, about half the volume was GP-led transactions and half the volume was LP transactions. Juxtapose that versus 2010, it was all LP transactions.”
Jon Madorsky May 29, 2025 ▶ 12:40 Jon Madorsky – Navigating the Evolution of Private Equity Secondaries (EP.448)
Assertion Partly supported
Madorsky: Yale and Harvard secondary sales are a return to market
“Although we see in the market that Yale and Harvard are selling, this is not their first sale. It's just actually a return to them selling.”
Jon Madorsky May 29, 2025 ▶ 14:25 Jon Madorsky – Navigating the Evolution of Private Equity Secondaries (EP.448)
Assertion Contradicted
Madorsky: Expected 2025 secondary volume is around $190 billion
“Let's say in 2025 expected secondary volume is a hundred and ninety billion dollars, plus or minus.”
Jon Madorsky May 29, 2025 ▶ 36:28 Jon Madorsky – Navigating the Evolution of Private Equity Secondaries (EP.448)
Assertion Supported
Madorsky: Secondary volume historically matches 1% to 1.5% of alternatives NAV
“Historically that Ratio, which has been the total volume over the total amount of NAV has been about one to one and a half percent.”
Jon Madorsky May 29, 2025 ▶ 36:50 Jon Madorsky – Navigating the Evolution of Private Equity Secondaries (EP.448)
Insight
Madorsky: LP secondaries return capital faster and mute the J-curve
“Limited partnership or LP secondaries tend to return capital quicker. Additionally, there's a discount involved in many of the limited partnership positions. As a result, the J-curve is even more muted because we can write it up to the NAV at acquisition.”
Jon Madorsky May 29, 2025 ▶ 44:14 Jon Madorsky – Navigating the Evolution of Private Equity Secondaries (EP.448)

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Jon Madorsky – Navigating the Evolution of Private Equity Secondaries (EP.448) May 29, 2025 42m
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