Geoffrey Rubin
Senior Managing Director, CPP Investments · 1 appearance on the record.
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Geoffrey Rubin oversees fund-level investment strategy and heads the One Fund Strategy Group at CPP Investments. He is widely recognized for establishing CPPIB's Total Portfolio Approach and championing the Canadian model of active institutional management.
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Accounting stability in private assets may induce a negative illiquidity premium
“I'm even concerned that there are some large institutional investors who would be willing to pay up for the accounting stability of private assets, which might In some points of the cycle, induce a negative illiquidity premium.”
Rubin: Capital One managed a portfolio of businesses, not individual positions
“The amazing thing I learned at Capital One is that it was not as much a portfolio of positions as it was a portfolio of businesses that generate positions for the balance sheet.”
Rubin: Mega-funds like CPPIB must manage investment teams as business portfolios
“Managing portfolios of franchises and businesses is something that a large institutional investor like CPPIB needs to grapple with our collection of investment businesses and the infrastructure and real estate and private equity and private credit and hedge fu…”
Rubin: Managing internal investment teams requires preserving capabilities through cycles, unlike position trading
“If you think about the portfolio as one of A page or two on a Bloomberg terminal, you can think about in a very agile and flexible way, scaling up and scaling down exposures to respond to both longer term and tactical or conditional risk adjusted pricing. When…”
Rubin: CPPIB Targeted Fund Risk Equivalent to 85/15 Equity-Debt Mix
“Our targeted risk level was for the base or initial fund itself was a level of risk equal to that Of a portfolio comprised of 85% equities and 15% fixed income. That became our targeted level of risk.”
A true investment horizon is how long you endure underperformance
“I think an investment horizon is fundamentally about the length of time one can remain committed To an investment strategy that is broadly performing as expected without getting stopped out. For me, the big value of possessing a long horizon is the ability to …”
Rubin: Overestimating your actual horizon to prove strategies is a major investor error
“Ted, I think that's one of the biggest errors that we can make as investors is believing we have a longer time to prove out an investment approach than we really do. If the answer is, is you only have a couple of quarters to prove that it makes money, you bett…”
Venture capital is a challenging asset class for CPPIB's massive scale
“And VC was a challenging one for us just given our scale and size as to the role of a VC program within that overall portfolio. But we do have that there.”
CPPIB expects its assets to double to $1 trillion by 2029
“I think it's hard to conceive of a fund like ours of five hundred billion dollars going to a trillion over the next six or seven years or so. It is hard to conceive of us maximizing returns at a particular target level of risk without truly global exposure to …”
Rubin: Active Investment Spaces Risk Commoditization Without Cross-Fund Connectivity
“Without this prioritization and coordination and integration, the connectivity among them, I worry that the spaces in which we invest will become ever more standardized and commoditized and over time will have diminished risk adjusted returns as a reward for t…”
A $3B check creates local friction despite negligible total fund impact
“What makes for an outsized concentration risk at the total fund level is going to look very different than outsized concentration risk
At the level of a portfolio owned by one particular portfolio manager within our organization.
And oftentimes we have these c…”
CPPIB found that splitting positions into centralized books eroded accountability
“We previously had a centralized book and
And the local team would hold a pro rata piece, but a small piece and the centralized book would hold another piece.
To be honest, I don't know if there's any perfect solution to this, but we found some of those fairly …”
CPPIB splits incentive comp equally across fund, team, and individual performance
“In terms of the variability of that level of compensation, we have a really a three part incentive compensation system. One third is tied to the performance of the overall fund. One third is tied to the performance of the local team portfolio and the final is …”
Single-domain investment careers are giving way to broader talent circulation
“I think the era of the eye-shaped individual who's just really deep in one particular area and has been mentored and has been apprenticed in one particular area and staying in that area their entire careers, I think that's going to give way to more circulation…”
CPPIB issues green bonds at tighter spreads than its conventional debt
“One incredible thing about the green bond program is that it allows us to issue it spreads that are inside where we issue in our normal programs.”
CPPIB's 2019 top-down strategy to center investing on tech fell short
“This was more kind of a top-down expectation that we were going to put data and technology at the center of everything we do in terms of the decisions we make and how we invest. And I don't think we've, as an organization have developed capabilities that match…”
CPPIB dropped its agriculture strategy because it couldn't move the needle
“I mentioned we built an agricultural investment strategy a number of years ago, and I'll give us credit for having the wherewithal to understand that that was an investment strategy. It was never going to have the kind of needle moving impact to our portfolio …”
Rubin: CPPIB Has Reached Its Target of About 80% Active Investments
“We have now transitioned our portfolio to its targeted level of about 80% or so active. It's not all private. Some of our public programs are also active.”
CPPIB now manages 55% of its active portfolio internally
“That 80% managed actively, I think about 55% is managed internally as opposed to externally now. So most of our active capabilities are now built in-house.”
CPPIB ties its incentive compensation to five-year trailing returns
“We try to configure all of our performance periods to five-year trailing returns.”
Highway 407 once constituted nearly 5% of CPPIB's entire portfolio
“One of our earliest and largest investments is the four Oh seven toll road here outside of Toronto, which was an investment, which at the time, I believe constituted almost five percent of our entire portfolio size.”
CPPIB is building an internal Investment Sciences team for AI applications
“We're similarly building a team that we call investment sciences, which is building out some of the AI machine learning technique for purposes in investment decisioning.”
Geoffrey Rubin models sports betting lines for Rugby Sevens for fun
“I recently got bit by the Rugby Sevens bug. It's a niche sport within a niche sport. It's a type of rugby play that I think is just thrilling and exciting and fun and the sports wagering opportunities on it are fun and doing some quantitative modeling Of the l…”
Appearances (1)
| Episode | Date | Speaking time |
|---|---|---|
| Geoffrey Rubin – The Modern Canadian Model at CPPIB (Capital Allocators, EP.280) | Nov 14, 2022 | 54m |