Avichal Garg

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7 supported 1 partly supported 0 contradicted 1 not yet assessed 8 not checkable as stated how the 17 claims stand · each chip opens the sources

7 predictions · 10 assertions · 1 opinion · 8 insights · 3 disclosures · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertions are the 17 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 8 are resolved, 1 is not yet assessed, and 8 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

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Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
Garg: DeFi protocols like Maker and Aave did not fail in 2022
“DeFi worked. DeFi didn't fail here. Maker is still going. Frax is still going. Ethereum is producing blocks. You can send money around using stable coins. You can still take money out of Aave. All the systems that are designed to be over collateralized and res…”
Avichal Garg Aug 4, 2022 ▶ 19:26 Avichal Garg – Programmer-Centric Crypto Investing at Electric (Manager Meetings, EP.34)

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Everything Avichal Garg said on Capital Allocators that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Assertion Supported
Garg: DeFi protocols like Maker and Aave did not fail in 2022
“DeFi worked. DeFi didn't fail here. Maker is still going. Frax is still going. Ethereum is producing blocks. You can send money around using stable coins. You can still take money out of Aave. All the systems that are designed to be over collateralized and res…”
Avichal Garg Aug 4, 2022 ▶ 19:26 Avichal Garg – Programmer-Centric Crypto Investing at Electric (Manager Meetings, EP.34)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Garg: Decentralized storage protocols like IPFS are competitive with AWS
“And beyond that, even decentralized infrastructure. You have things like IPFS, Interplanetary File System, which is incentivized with Filecoin, or RWE, which is a permanent data store. And these things work. You can actually store data on them. Depending on wh…”
Avichal Garg Aug 4, 2022 ▶ 24:18 Avichal Garg – Programmer-Centric Crypto Investing at Electric (Manager Meetings, EP.34)
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Garg: Most DeFi protocols will fail to capture defensible value
“A lot of these protocols ultimately we think will not capture that much value despite there being very useful. It's just going to be really tough for them to actually capture significant value defensively over time.”
Avichal Garg Aug 4, 2022 ▶ 29:16 Avichal Garg – Programmer-Centric Crypto Investing at Electric (Manager Meetings, EP.34)
Insight
Liquid crypto tokens are seed and Series A startups gone public
“Essentially, these are seed stage and series A companies that have gone public.”
Avichal Garg Aug 4, 2022 ▶ 37:53 Avichal Garg – Programmer-Centric Crypto Investing at Electric (Manager Meetings, EP.34)
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Garg: NEAR Protocol is in the top five to survive long term
“They're easily in the top five of things that will actually persist and will survive and have a real value and real ecosystems built on top of them.”
Avichal Garg Aug 4, 2022 ▶ 48:30 Avichal Garg – Programmer-Centric Crypto Investing at Electric (Manager Meetings, EP.34)
Insight
Garg: NFT marketplaces are more defensible businesses than cryptocurrency exchanges
“The belief we've come to is that the NFT markets Are actually going to be more defensible than the cryptocurrency markets. And it's because the assets that you're purchasing are by definition, unique and distinct.”
Avichal Garg Aug 4, 2022 ▶ 50:59 Avichal Garg – Programmer-Centric Crypto Investing at Electric (Manager Meetings, EP.34)
Insight
Garg: Crypto VC firms must operate like engineering-driven software companies
“The way to do investing in crypto would be really different. And it would look a lot more operational. It would look a lot more like a software company than it would a traditional investment firm.”
Avichal Garg Aug 4, 2022 ▶ 8:53 Avichal Garg – Programmer-Centric Crypto Investing at Electric (Manager Meetings, EP.34)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Electric Capital found raising a $1B fund easier than $10M
“Bizarrely, it was easier for us to raise a billion dollars than it was to raise that first ten million dollars.”
Avichal Garg Aug 4, 2022 ▶ 10:13 Avichal Garg – Programmer-Centric Crypto Investing at Electric (Manager Meetings, EP.34)
Assertion Partly supported
Magic Eden generates hundreds of millions in revenue run rate
“You look at something like Magic Eden on Solana, the run rate for that business is hundreds of millions of dollars a year. The GMV is billions and billions of dollars a year of assets being purchased, and that's on another new L-one in Solana.”
Avichal Garg Aug 4, 2022 ▶ 22:33 Avichal Garg – Programmer-Centric Crypto Investing at Electric (Manager Meetings, EP.34)
Insight
Garg: Value chains form a U-curve where middle integrators get squeezed
“What you can visualize is sort of a U-curve, which is to say that if you're on the far left and you really own the user relationship, you can capture a ton of value. And if you're on the far right, you have some CapEx-heavy hard technology problem. You can lik…”
Avichal Garg Aug 4, 2022 ▶ 27:12 Avichal Garg – Programmer-Centric Crypto Investing at Electric (Manager Meetings, EP.34)
Opinion
Andreessen Horowitz built a media company monetized via venture capital
“One of the things they got right, they essentially built a media company that monetizes with venture capital, and they realized that that top of funnel investment flow is really valuable.”
Avichal Garg Aug 4, 2022 ▶ 32:34 Avichal Garg – Programmer-Centric Crypto Investing at Electric (Manager Meetings, EP.34)
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Garg: Crypto will be a multi-chain environment governed by power laws
“We tend to think the world is going to be multi-chain. It's not going to be one chain to rule them all. And there probably is going to be some sort of power law there. So the big winner will be really big. We tend to think Bitcoin and Ethereum will be really b…”
Avichal Garg Aug 4, 2022 ▶ 45:56 Avichal Garg – Programmer-Centric Crypto Investing at Electric (Manager Meetings, EP.34)
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Garg: NFTs are probably how crypto goes mainstream
“The high level here is I've come to believe that NFTs are probably how crypto goes mainstream.”
Avichal Garg Aug 4, 2022 ▶ 49:12 Avichal Garg – Programmer-Centric Crypto Investing at Electric (Manager Meetings, EP.34)
Insight
Garg: There are no good venture investments, only missed size or omissions
“There are no good investments in venture. It's either investments where you said no, you should have said yes, or it's investments where you said yes, but you should have put in a lot more money. There's just no good venture investments.”
Avichal Garg Aug 4, 2022 ▶ 57:52 Avichal Garg – Programmer-Centric Crypto Investing at Electric (Manager Meetings, EP.34)
Insight
Garg: Founders must tolerate being perceived as dumb for years
“And it turns out that psychological position is very important if you're going to be a founder or if you're going to be an investor in something like crypto. You have to be comfortable with people thinking you're dumb for many years at a time.”
Avichal Garg Aug 4, 2022 ▶ 6:18 Avichal Garg – Programmer-Centric Crypto Investing at Electric (Manager Meetings, EP.34)
Insight
Garg: The best investments happen when crypto is deeply unpopular
“Curtis and I always joke that the best investments are when nobody wants to talk to us and we're slowly getting there. When we're very, very unpopular is actually the right time to be investing.”
Avichal Garg Aug 4, 2022 ▶ 12:44 Avichal Garg – Programmer-Centric Crypto Investing at Electric (Manager Meetings, EP.34)
Assertion Supported
Ethereum developer counts remained flat despite 80 percent price drops
“The number of developers that are continuing to write code in Ethereum, despite prices being down 60 to 80%, it's flat. The number of full-time developers hasn't gone down. They're still writing code.”
Avichal Garg Aug 4, 2022 ▶ 14:04 Avichal Garg – Programmer-Centric Crypto Investing at Electric (Manager Meetings, EP.34)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Garg: 2022 crypto failures were caused by opaque off-chain behavior
“The systems that failed by and large were because of off-chain opaque behavior.”
Avichal Garg Aug 4, 2022 ▶ 19:43 Avichal Garg – Programmer-Centric Crypto Investing at Electric (Manager Meetings, EP.34)
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Garg: Crypto valuations will overcorrect to the downside
“We tend to think a lot of these things will overcorrect relative to the value that they've created and relative to the value that they will create.”
Avichal Garg Aug 4, 2022 ▶ 21:35 Avichal Garg – Programmer-Centric Crypto Investing at Electric (Manager Meetings, EP.34)
Prediction Held up
Garg: Uniswap will try to capture end-user interface value
“So I think in the case of somebody like Uniswap, you're going to see them try to capture more end-user-facing value and try to own that interface.”
Avichal Garg Aug 4, 2022 ▶ 28:40 Avichal Garg – Programmer-Centric Crypto Investing at Electric (Manager Meetings, EP.34)
Insight
Garg: Following developers is one of early-stage investing's best heuristics
“One of the best heuristics is follow the developers.”
Avichal Garg Aug 4, 2022 ▶ 31:36 Avichal Garg – Programmer-Centric Crypto Investing at Electric (Manager Meetings, EP.34)
Disclosure
Electric Capital employs full-time engineers instead of VC associates
“We don't have associates and principals. We just hire engineers. So we have eight engineers on staff and these are killer people.”
Avichal Garg Aug 4, 2022 ▶ 41:22 Avichal Garg – Programmer-Centric Crypto Investing at Electric (Manager Meetings, EP.34)
Assertion Supported
Crypto startups cannot rely on Facebook or Google for customer acquisition
“Many of the traditional customer acquisition channels you can't use like Facebook and Google don't make it easy to advertise crypto things. You just can't use those channels.”
Avichal Garg Aug 4, 2022 ▶ 44:10 Avichal Garg – Programmer-Centric Crypto Investing at Electric (Manager Meetings, EP.34)
Disclosure
Magic Eden had a $100M revenue run rate when Electric Capital invested
“At the time that we made the investment, they were doing like a hundred million or so annualized run rate, ARR for their business.”
Avichal Garg Aug 4, 2022 ▶ 50:25 Avichal Garg – Programmer-Centric Crypto Investing at Electric (Manager Meetings, EP.34)

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