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D 5 · C 5 · P 5 · Cm 5 5.00
Q So when Jean was on the show a couple of weeks ago, she talked about Wellington getting into hedge funds, even predating Mark in the mid nineties. And I'd love you to take me back from the perspective of just the hedge fund group of how did this all start at Wellington?
A It wasn't necessarily a big strategic decision at the time. It was actually much more about retaining an incredibly talented investor at the firm. And so Nick Adams, Julian Robertson knew him well and had approached him to leave Wellington, join him and launch a hedge fund. And so Nick actually quit and was on his way out the door. And the CEO at the time, Bob Dorn, Said, Nick, come in to my office tomorrow. I want to see you and talk about this. And so Nick came in and saw him and he asked him, why are you leaving? You seem like a great fit for Wellington. We love you. And Nick said, well, yes, all that's true, but I really have a passion for pursuing hedge fund investing and Wellington doesn't do that. And Bob Dorn said, well, we do now, please stay. And Julian was part of the original capital that helped seed it. And that really started the business. Nick, to his great credit, continues to be one of our top hedge fund managers here at Wellington, but that really is what kicked it off.
AI assessment note: “It was actually much more about retaining an incredibly talented investor at the firm.”
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D 5 · C 5 · P 5 · Cm 5 5.00
Q How do you go about developing that conviction in an individual portfolio manager in their team?
A For me, the starting point is the philosophy and process of the investment team. Why is it that you think you can beat the market, which is very, very hard to do in the process part, the three sub components of an investment process. So it's idea generation, capital allocation of those ideas, and then risk management of the collection of ideas that you're generating. If you do that at a granular level, it gives you Insight into the type of portfolio you should see from that team. If you go through that whole process and the conclusion is this a team that their strength is idiosyncratic risk-taking. Then when you look at the portfolio, you should see a portfolio where 80% give or take of the risk is idiosyncratic risk. And that is how you start to build conviction and differentiate between luck and skill.
AI assessment note: “And that is how you start to build conviction and differentiate between luck and skill.”
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D 5 · C 5 · P 4 · Cm 4 4.60
Q So in that first wave of the hedge fund around Nick, what did the hedge fund platform become at Wellington?
A Wellington grew up as a collection of investment boutiques held together with this private partnership structure. And so the way hedge funds grew was that investment teams would suggest, hey, we have a skill set that we think could be useful to clients in a hedge fund form. Over time, we accumulated a number of single strategy LP funds. In 2019, the firm did a review of our alternatives business. And the conclusion of that was that the business that we had was pretty good, but that the firm has the potential for it to be a great business. But to get there, pursuing it bottom up was no longer the most likely way to unlock that potential. We needed to add a top-down strategic component to it.
AI assessment note: “Over time, we accumulated a number of single strategy LP funds.”
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D 4 · C 5 · P 4 · Cm 4 4.30
Q When you set out for this gen three version of the product, how did you think about what that objective was that you were hearing from your clients that you're going to try to deliver?
A So maybe go back five years on this. When I came into the role of head of the hedge fund group and started to look at what we were doing across the entirety of the hedge fund business, we had fallen a little bit out of step with the evolution of the hedge fund business in terms of what clients wanted and how it was being delivered. What was clear as we did the evaluation is we had the skill sets. We had really strong investment capabilities. But that we needed to be open-minded to evolving the objectives of some of those teams such that they would align better with where the market had gotten to. And if you look at how hedge funds have evolved in terms of their use in the client portfolio, they've evolved a lot post GFC. And that's in a backdrop where assets allocated to the hedge fund industry has increased, but that's largely been driven by Performance of the funds themselves, not necessarily new money flowing into it. Furthermore, if you look at underneath the surface of that, what's been happening is that a lot of clients have been allocating to hedge funds for diversifying strategy that can give you a high sharp ratio, no correlation to market risk, et cetera. That part of the market has grown dramatically over the last 10 plus years, and at the same time, The more return seeking part of a client's hedge fund portfolio actually has been shrinking. And a lot of that money h…
AI assessment note: “allocating to hedge funds for diversifying strategy that can give you a high sharp ratio”
