Jun 25, 2018 · 1h 30m · capital-allocators
James Aitken – Macro Strategist Extraordinaire (Capital Allocators, EP.58)
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Macro strategist James Aitken joins Ted Seides to examine global financial plumbing, central bank policy shifts, regional opportunities across Asia and Europe, and the disciplined mental models required for institutional investing.
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Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Ted holds 12.3% of the talking time here. How this is scored →
Ted as informed peer 4.1 Guest teaching 6.1 Guest disagreement 2.1 Ted pushing back 0.8
speaking balance: gold is Ted, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 34:10 Mocking simplistic two-line chart correlation peddlers
James sarcastically dismantles lazy financial commentary by joking that anyone can lag mobile subscriptions in India to prove they drive Hong Kong dollar funding.
Hardest push from Ted ▶ 1:07:15 Ted defends the ten-year success of the QE optimism tradeTed firmly interrupts James's critique of leveraged QE optimists by noting that assuming central bank support has been the single most profitable strategy over the prior decade.
Biggest teaching moment ▶ 53:40 Exposing China's offshore balance sheet dollar debt absorptionJames reframes conventional Western fear of Chinese dollar-debt blowups by revealing that domestic state banks absorb that paper onto their own massive offshore balance sheets.
Ted holds their own ▶ 1:09:13 Ted connects rate regime shifts to private equity duration riskTed demonstrates deep allocator expertise by explaining how institutional capital has piled into long-duration illiquid private assets, magnifying their vulnerability to rate hikes.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
| Chapter | Topic | Ted as informed peer | Guest teaching | Guest disagreement | Ted pushing back | Why |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Early Career and Education at AIG Financial Products | 3 | 5 | 1 | 0 | Ted prompts James to share his origin story and how he realized his knowledge gaps early on. James candidly describes being humbled by Sir Alan Walters and Bernard Connolly at AIG Trading. | |
| Navigating the Global Financial Crisis at UBS | 4 | 7 | 2 | 1 | James breaks down the mechanical triggers of the 2007-2008 subprime crisis, including CDO downgrade mechanics and margin calls on Bear Stearns. Ted chimes in on the role of institutional incentives. | |
| Founding Aitken Advisors and the Eurozone Crisis Onset | 3 | 6 | 2 | 0 | James recounts starting his firm in 2009 and identifying the flawed assumption in European monetary union that peripheral sovereign debt carried zero default risk. | |
| The Restructured Greek Sovereign Debt Opportunity | 3 | 6 | 1 | 0 | James illustrates how an analyst spotted English-law restructured Greek debt trading at a discount to Greek-law paper, demonstrating the value of culture over macro heroism. | |
| Defining Modern Macro Investing and Mandates | 4 | 6 | 3 | 1 | James critiques modern macro funds that get restricted by volatility-targeting mandates and conventional roach-motel trades, contrasting them with nimble, broad-mandate pioneers. | |
| Demystifying Financial Plumbing and Constructive Paranoia | 4 | 7 | 4 | 1 | James rejects simplistic two-line chart correlations and alarmism around dollar shortages, explaining instead how market plumbing actually adapts and defining constructive paranoia. | |
| Sponsor: Ridgeline | 5 | 7 | 3 | 1 | James walks through the Fed's communication, Bill Dudley's hawkish shift, and why markets repeatedly misjudge central bank tightening and stock-bond correlation shifts. | |
| Demystifying China: Deleveraging and Structural Capital Market Integration | 5 | 7 | 3 | 2 | Ted presses James on common knowledge assumptions, prompting James to explain why China will not follow a Western subprime crisis script and revealing how Chinese banks absorb dollar corporate issuance. | |
| Finding Value in Japanese Corporate Reforms and Banks | 4 | 5 | 2 | 0 | James explains why he favors boring Japanese equities and bank balance sheets over hyped Abenomics currency trades, emphasizing steady corporate governance reforms. | |
| European Structural Vulnerabilities, ECB Dilemma, and Italy | 5 | 7 | 3 | 3 | James outlines the structural flaws in Europe and ECB policy. Ted counters that betting on central bank support has been the winning strategy for ten years, forcing James to explain the risk of regime shifts. | |
| The Flawed Assumption of Low Long-Term Rates and Asset Allocation | 6 | 6 | 2 | 2 | Ted links James's warnings on long-term rates to allocator crowding into long-duration private equity and private credit. James agrees and explains how low terminal rate guidance pushed allocators into duration risk. | |
| Structural Growth Opportunities in the Indian Economy | 4 | 7 | 2 | 0 | James highlights the underappreciated structural growth story in India, comparing its infrastructure corridor and tech valuations against dominant China narratives. | |
| Time Management, Reading Habits, and Process Discipline | 4 | 5 | 1 | 0 | James discusses the importance of preferring reflective time over reactive market noise, carving out large blocks of time for reading and learning. | |
| Concluding Questions and Core Life Lessons | 4 | 4 | 1 | 0 | During closing questions, James shares personal reflections on family, his pet peeve regarding market pundits saying 'I told you so', and the informational edge of reading parliamentary transcripts. |
Statements from this episode (33)
AIG Veterans Warned That Collateral Shortages Could Sink the Firm
“When AIG was first downgraded, I think it was 2005. And I started to hear whispers from more seasoned, long-term employees of AIG Financial Products along the lines of, oh gosh, if we're downgraded another couple of notches, there's not enough collateral in th…”
July 2007 CDO Downgrades Marked the Financial Crisis Point of No Return
“The CDOs were non-mark to market vehicles unless and until they were downgraded. And once they were downgraded, it was price discovery free for all. And that was the end of it. That was the point of no return.”
Falsifying a Credit Cycle's Core Assumption Triggers Severe Mean Reversion
“When you falsify the key assumption underpinning any liquidity or credit cycle, you get mean reversion and then some”
James Aitken Declined a $1 Billion Sovereign Wealth Fund Offer
“I had one sovereign wealth fund say, oh, we'd like to give you a billion dollars to manage a long, short financial fund. And I said, well, that's great, but I can't do that.”
Germany's Decision to Punish Greece Triggered the Eurozone Systemic Crisis
“The key assumption Underpinning economic and monetary union. In fact, to this day, there's no default risk in peripheral credit of all kinds, whether it be sovereign or bank or whatever. And Ted, the Germans thought, here's an opportunity to teach everyone a l…”
Top Performers in the Eurozone Crisis Avoided Being Sovereign Debt Heroes
“For all the smash up in the Eurozone, all the policy mistakes, the people that ended up doing the best were the people who didn't try to be sovereign debt heroes.”
Volatility Targeting and Narrow Mandates Hamstring Modern Macro Funds
“Part of the tremendous success of the true macro pioneers was the broadness of their mandate. I will have a top-down view of the world, but I will use any instrument under the sun to express it, compared to the more recent past, where macro has become institut…”
Micromanaging Institutional Clients Prevent Macro Managers from Taking Necessary Risk
“You need the right clients. You can't have clients who ring you up every Friday saying, what have you done this week? That is just no way to manage money. But I'm afraid that's tended to go hand in hand with a lot of the institutional allocations that macro ma…”
Expert Status Breeds Dangerous Intellectual Complacency in Financial Systems
“It's dangerous when you're considered to be an expert on something, and I think it's still fair that people, to say that people know me as the plumbing guy, but it's dangerous if you come to be known as an expert because it means you might shut your mind off t…”
Japanese Dollar Lending Lubricates Global Money Markets and Boosts Float
“How Japanese institutions are lending their dollars in a much greater scale, which is lubricating global money markets and increasing the float of dollars.”
Post-Crisis Bank Regulation and Central Bank Policies Operate at Cross Purposes
“There's an obvious feedback loop between post-crisis regulation and what central banks have been trying to do. In fact, you might argue they're at cross purposes.”
Constructive Paranoia Balances Downside Protection with Unpriced Upside Potential
“Constructive paranoia, when you're thinking about markets and asset allocation and investing, is as much about, oh my gosh, am I overexposed to something that might go wrong, As it is about, oh my gosh, am I underexposed to this particular opportunity that peo…”
The Federal Reserve Will Continue Gradual Rate Hikes for Years
“And they are going to be slow and gradual for a long time to come, barring a tremendous exogenous shock.”
Late-Cycle Fiscal Tax Cuts Will Drive a Hotter US Economy
“You would think based on that observation, the probability is higher that in 2018 and 2019, the US economy will run a bit hotter than it has done over the past several years.”
US Economy May Be Mid-Cycle Despite Late-Cycle Asset Valuations
“My sense is, subject to revision, that we're looking at late cycle asset price valuations, but shockingly, the US economy might be mid-cycle”
Applying the US Subprime Crisis Model to China Is Dangerous
“So the common assumption that worries me most about China is that they must have a subprime-like crisis at some point. I'm not sure about that. A financial crisis, some kind of credit cycle, liquidity cycle, defaults, for sure. But to use that subprime mental …”
China Cannot Aggressively Deleverage Without Severe GDP Consequences
“The stock is still rising, and perhaps I'm being simplistic, but I don't see how you ever deflate what is frankly a gigantic liquidity bubble rolling from asset class to asset class inside China without some pretty stern consequences for Chinese GDP. And that'…”
Chinese Corporate Dollar Bonds Are Heavily Absorbed by Domestic Banks
“So we're told for years that all these Chinese property companies and Chinese corporations are borrowed in dollars. If the dollar goes up and the Fed tightens policy, they're in, in a world of pain. And this young man managing a Chinese bank balance sheet in B…”
Global Capital Allocations to Onshore Chinese Equities Will Inevitably Increase
“Whether it be passive money or active money, over the next several years, there will be increasing allocations to Chinese onshore equities, and that's not going to go away.”
The Bank of Japan Is Completely Unable to Exit Asset Purchases
“The Bank of Japan sort of
Waffles from time to time about exiting their asset purchases.
I don't see how they can.
I really don't.”
Japanese Banks Are Re-Rating Due to Upgraded Risk Management Capabilities
“I think it's quite cliched these days to say, you know, own Japanese banks, but I, I've liked them for a long time, and I like to stick with them, because I know how much they've invested in their risk management technology, I know how much they've upgraded th…”
Probability of Widespread Eurozone Structural Reform Is Rapidly Decreasing
“There's no banking union. There's no capital markets union. And arguably, given the setbacks, the self-inflicted setbacks that Merkel has had, You know, the probability that we're going to get widespread structural reform is going down by the minute”
Italian Bond Spreads Imply a 30% Risk of Tactical Default
“At 300 over Bunz, effectively, that is implying, I mean, this is subjective, but effectively implying a 30% probability of some kind of re-denomination or tactical default in Italy.”
Markets Are Completely Ignoring Central Bank Intentions to Reactivate Volatility
“Central banks, with the exception of the Bank of Japan, have been signaling for a year or more that they are trying to reactivate financial markets, and financial markets don't want to hear it.”
The 2013 Taper Tantrum Was Not a Bernanke Communication Error
“It's popularly believed that the taper tantrum was a colossal communication error by Ben Bernanke. I'm not so sure about that. He was telling people via his speeches from February, 2013 onwards that he thought U S long-term interest rates were too low and peop…”
Central Bank Warnings on Low Volatility Signal Higher Market Correction Tolerance
“When central bankers privately and publicly tell you over and over again that we're trying to reactivate markets And when they go on and on about, oh, geez, implied volatility's too low, they're actually saying that our tolerance for some kind of market correc…”
Assuming Long-Term Rates Can Only Fall Is Global Markets' Biggest Risk
“I think the number one risk is the assumption that long-term interest rates can only go down. That's the number one risk. That underpins, I think, Nearly every major asset allocation around the world. The assumption that we are perpetually mired in some sort o…”
Secular Stagnation Is a Policy Choice, Not an Inevitable Reality
“Secular stagnation is a euphemism for policy failure, meaning that secular stagnation is a choice.”
Federal Reserve Terminal Rate Will Hit at Least 300 Basis Points
“So Fed funds doesn't get to 525 basis points like it did in O six. It gets to something like, oh, let's say, 300, which I think would surprise some people if we got there, but that's where I think it's the minimum.”
Narendra Modi Might Lift More People Out of Poverty Than China
“How many million people is Modi going to lift out of poverty? Right? I reckon it might be more than the Chinese have, but just whisper it.”
India's Commodity Demand Cycle Matches China's Accelerated Growth in 2003
“What if India today is at the same point of its commodity demand cycle as China was in 2003? Now that could be big, and my suspicion is that that hunch could explain part of why global commodity markets and energy markets remain fairly well supported.”
Parliamentary Committee Testimony Is More Reliable Than Mainstream Financial Reporting
“There is a tremendous amount of information in testimony provided to various parliamentary committees around the world. Now, I know that sounds awfully anorak, but I'll give you a very important example. By definition, if I'm testifying to a House of Commons o…”
Social Media Platforms Face Severe Problems from Pending Parliamentary Scrutiny
“And when it comes to social media companies, the House of Commons Digital Media Committee has been holding hearings in London and Washington about the role and activities of these social media platforms. And not just because I'm personally interested in it, bu…”