St. Paul Minnesota Foundation

also referred to as: st. paul & minnesota foundation

1 statements across 1 episodes · 2 bullish · 2 bearish · 1 people on the record · first statement Mar 10, 2025 by Shannon O'Leary · across every show →

Everything said about St. Paul Minnesota Foundation, oldest first

Mar 10, 2025 neutral
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O'Leary: Foundation manager diligence takes at least six months
“A diligence process from when we meet you to when we make an investment decision at the fastest is six months.”
Shannon O'Leary Mar 10, 2025 ▶ 34:11 Shannon O'Leary – Relationship Capital Investing at St. Paul & Minnesota Foundation (EP.435)
Mar 10, 2025 neutral
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O'Leary: St. Paul Foundation manages assets for 200+ nonprofits
“We also manage assets for more than 200 nonprofits. We're effectively their outsource CIO.”
Shannon O'Leary Mar 10, 2025 ▶ 56:06 Shannon O'Leary – Relationship Capital Investing at St. Paul & Minnesota Foundation (EP.435)
Mar 10, 2025
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O'Leary: Foundation allocates 65% to growth assets to fund 5% spending
“On the gross side though, because we're trying to support at five percent spending policy while offsetting inflation over time, that's always going to be the biggest chunk of this portfolio. It is a big risk budget. So, 65% where we're seeking higher return, a…”
Shannon O'Leary Mar 10, 2025 ▶ 29:40 Shannon O'Leary – Relationship Capital Investing at St. Paul & Minnesota Foundation (EP.435)
Mar 10, 2025
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O'Leary: St. Paul Foundation uses a roles-based asset allocation framework
“We ended up shifting from the bucketed model to a roles-based allocation, which is almost like a total portfolio approach. And so we've got our growth allocation, we have our diversifying assets, and then we have a real assets allocation.”
Shannon O'Leary Mar 10, 2025 ▶ 29:21 Shannon O'Leary – Relationship Capital Investing at St. Paul & Minnesota Foundation (EP.435)
Mar 10, 2025 bearish
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O'Leary: St. Paul Foundation will reduce commitment sizes in 2025 and 2026
“Obviously, our ticket size is going to be smaller in 2025 and probably 2026 as well.”
Shannon O'Leary Mar 10, 2025 ▶ 53:57 Shannon O'Leary – Relationship Capital Investing at St. Paul & Minnesota Foundation (EP.435)
Mar 10, 2025
Disclosure
O'Leary: I have ordered fund CIOs to stop talking during diligence
“There's been meetings where I've invited the chief investment officer of an organization to stop talking because he's being significantly less effective than I think if I heard from the staff.”
Shannon O'Leary Mar 10, 2025 ▶ 47:10 Shannon O'Leary – Relationship Capital Investing at St. Paul & Minnesota Foundation (EP.435)
Mar 10, 2025
Insight
O'Leary: Manager behavior reveals investment process and partnership fit
“If you don't spend a little of that time getting to know folks, understanding how they think, how they operate, that not only informs their investment thought process and how they treat their staff, how they approach their underlying assets, it's a really good…”
Shannon O'Leary Mar 10, 2025 ▶ 20:34 Shannon O'Leary – Relationship Capital Investing at St. Paul & Minnesota Foundation (EP.435)
Mar 10, 2025
Disclosure
O'Leary: Foundation maintains a fifty-fifty liquid to illiquid asset split
“We don't have the flexibility of, say, a college endowment, so you've got to have enough liquidity built in there, and then obviously we're looking for that return. That bucket is probably fifty-fifty in terms of liquid versus non-liquid.”
Shannon O'Leary Mar 10, 2025 ▶ 31:23 Shannon O'Leary – Relationship Capital Investing at St. Paul & Minnesota Foundation (EP.435)
Mar 10, 2025 positive
Insight
O'Leary: Allocators learn most about firms from non-executive staff
“And we learn a lot by interviewing not the top brass. You can learn a lot about a firm by how they treat the staff.”
Shannon O'Leary Mar 10, 2025 ▶ 34:49 Shannon O'Leary – Relationship Capital Investing at St. Paul & Minnesota Foundation (EP.435)
Mar 10, 2025 neutral
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O'Leary: Philanthropic foundations often disconnect grantmaking from endowment investments
“At the time, too, there was also not a lot of connective tissue between the grant side of the house and the investment side of the house, and I think that's pretty common in philanthropy to see.”
Shannon O'Leary Mar 10, 2025 ▶ 27:56 Shannon O'Leary – Relationship Capital Investing at St. Paul & Minnesota Foundation (EP.435)
Mar 10, 2025
Disclosure
O'Leary: Diligence pauses immediately if a manager dodges a question
“The experience gets baked into the process by us ensuring that if I don't get an answer, There's two other folks on this relationship that are gonna ask the same question, point out that it hasn't been answered, and it basically empowered us to be a lot bolder…”
Shannon O'Leary Mar 10, 2025 ▶ 38:58 Shannon O'Leary – Relationship Capital Investing at St. Paul & Minnesota Foundation (EP.435)
Mar 10, 2025 positive
Insight
O'Leary: Getting managers to reveal concealed truths is 90% of diligence
“I think holding people's feet to the fire on tough stuff, like the conversation around the succession planning, those conversations where this is a safe venue for us to talk about hard things and really having managers understand that, and then feeling empower…”
Shannon O'Leary Mar 10, 2025 ▶ 39:37 Shannon O'Leary – Relationship Capital Investing at St. Paul & Minnesota Foundation (EP.435)
Mar 10, 2025
Assertion Supported
O'Leary: Saint Paul Foundation is Minnesota's largest community foundation
“So St. Paul Minnesota Foundation is one of many community foundations in the state. We are the largest. We are statewide, which is a bit unique.”
Shannon O'Leary Mar 10, 2025 ▶ 23:31 Shannon O'Leary – Relationship Capital Investing at St. Paul & Minnesota Foundation (EP.435)
Mar 10, 2025 negative
Insight
O'Leary: Many aging fund co-founders lack robust succession planning
“There's a lot of co-founders out there in their sixties and seventies. Some have done robust planning. Many have not. A few have attempted some planning and then had to back up the truck and start over again a few times.”
Shannon O'Leary Mar 10, 2025 ▶ 40:10 Shannon O'Leary – Relationship Capital Investing at St. Paul & Minnesota Foundation (EP.435)
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