RTW Investments

23 statements across 1 episodes · 7 bullish · 8 bearish · 1 people on the record · first statement Apr 24, 2023 by Rod Wong · said 15 times in 1 episodes since 2023 · across every show →

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Apr 24, 2023
Disclosure
Wong: RTW limits worst-case position loss to 5% of fund capital
“Our best ideas, this conviction piece, our very best ideas. And sometimes we don't even have one that reaches this level in a given year, but we are willing to take up to a five percent loss if we're flat out wrong.”
Rod Wong Apr 24, 2023 ▶ 36:07 Rod Wong – Empty Rooms: Innovation in Biotech at RTW (Capital Allocators, EP. 310)
Apr 24, 2023 neutral
Assertion Contradicted
Wong: Around a dozen dedicated healthcare firms manage over $1B
“I don't know the exact number, but healthcare dedicated firms that are managing meaningful amounts of capital, like north of a billion dollars is probably, you know, a dozen plus or minus something like that.”
Rod Wong Apr 24, 2023 ▶ 47:40 Rod Wong – Empty Rooms: Innovation in Biotech at RTW (Capital Allocators, EP. 310)
Apr 24, 2023
Insight
Wong: Position sizing requires continual re-underwriting of catalyst probabilities
“We just consider each point in time, almost kind of like you're re-underwriting the investment, right? So No matter where an investment is trading or where it's been marked last, you're thinking about then what is the next step in terms of key event, probabili…”
Rod Wong Apr 24, 2023 ▶ 33:40 Rod Wong – Empty Rooms: Innovation in Biotech at RTW (Capital Allocators, EP. 310)
Apr 24, 2023 bearish
Assertion Supported
Wong: Biotech is in its second-deepest and second-longest bear market ever
“So we are 18 months into a biotech bear market that's the second worst Correction in the history of the industry, right? The first being the obvious one, the genomics bubble bursting in 2000 to 2003. It's second longest, second deepest.”
Rod Wong Apr 24, 2023 ▶ 11:26 Rod Wong – Empty Rooms: Innovation in Biotech at RTW (Capital Allocators, EP. 310)
Apr 24, 2023 bullish
Insight
Wong: 'Lock-and-key' biotech bets have high clinical odds and strong returns
“If you know that a tumor is caused by this mutation, or if you know that this rare disease, they are missing this gene, and if you can express the protein that's missing or replace it, that's probably going to work. And as simple as it sounds, we continue to m…”
Rod Wong Apr 24, 2023 ▶ 56:23 Rod Wong – Empty Rooms: Innovation in Biotech at RTW (Capital Allocators, EP. 310)
Apr 24, 2023 positive
Insight
Rod Wong: Healthcare portfolios should be concentrated because mispriced drugs are scarce
“So at the end of the day, the strategy was find those things that offer high probability asymmetric risk reward over a medium to long duration and build a portfolio out of those things, recognizing that great drugs that are underappreciated by the market shoul…”
Rod Wong Apr 24, 2023 ▶ 16:04 Rod Wong – Empty Rooms: Innovation in Biotech at RTW (Capital Allocators, EP. 310)
Apr 24, 2023 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Wong: Biotech has more than tripled its mature drug production modalities
“We've more than tripled the number of technologies That you can produce drugs from, and that list I just kind of rattled off, that's not science fiction. The only things I've named are things that have proven themselves mature enough to actually have drugs com…”
Rod Wong Apr 24, 2023 ▶ 13:18 Rod Wong – Empty Rooms: Innovation in Biotech at RTW (Capital Allocators, EP. 310)
Apr 24, 2023 neutral
Disclosure
Wong: RTW applies value investing frameworks to binary biotech development
“We're fundamentally value oriented and we are looking for asymmetric risk reward. The trick is that you have to overlay that we live in a probabilistic business or one that's binary.”
Rod Wong Apr 24, 2023 ▶ 31:11 Rod Wong – Empty Rooms: Innovation in Biotech at RTW (Capital Allocators, EP. 310)
Apr 24, 2023 positive
Insight
Rod Wong: A great internal presentation deck is probably four slides
“And now, what is a great deck? A great deck is probably four slides.”
Rod Wong Apr 24, 2023 ▶ 24:05 Rod Wong – Empty Rooms: Innovation in Biotech at RTW (Capital Allocators, EP. 310)
Apr 24, 2023 positive
Insight
Wong: Healthcare investment culture defaults to collaboration over competition
“The culture that developed in our ecosystem was one that we worked together to get things. So most of us are friends with some portion of the rest of us. And the culture is to default to not be competitive, but try to be collaborative. And that spirit, I think…”
Rod Wong Apr 24, 2023 ▶ 48:45 Rod Wong – Empty Rooms: Innovation in Biotech at RTW (Capital Allocators, EP. 310)
Apr 24, 2023
Insight
Wong: Equity offerings are typically capped at 10% to 20% of market cap
“You know, the rough rule of thumb is you can do an equity offering for like, 10 to 20% of a company's market cap at any given time. But some companies need three, four X that amount of capital.”
Rod Wong Apr 24, 2023 ▶ 55:03 Rod Wong – Empty Rooms: Innovation in Biotech at RTW (Capital Allocators, EP. 310)
Apr 24, 2023 positive
Disclosure
Wong: Sizing rare disease markets via center counts and genetics provides RTW edge
“And we've got very good at doing exercises by, for example, counting patients at certain centers, by knowing how to use insurance data, more recently knowing how to use genetic data from public databases, and using that to conclude what The outcome was likely …”
Rod Wong Apr 24, 2023 ▶ 43:19 Rod Wong – Empty Rooms: Innovation in Biotech at RTW (Capital Allocators, EP. 310)
Apr 24, 2023 negative
Insight
Wong: Strong Phase 2 p-values in constipation drugs repeatedly failed Phase 3
“We studied all these historical constipation trials, going back into the literature, and we found that phase twos, a lot of them work, and phase threes, they all fail, every single one. So empirically, we said, actually, the statistician is wrong. Doesn't matt…”
Rod Wong Apr 24, 2023 ▶ 41:57 Rod Wong – Empty Rooms: Innovation in Biotech at RTW (Capital Allocators, EP. 310)
Apr 24, 2023 negative
Insight
Wong: Academic lab cultures foster egos that complicate cross-functional management
“They are small teams that are very, very good at what they do. And you develop big personalities, big egos from that. And that's a management challenge when what you're talking about is you want people with different expertise to really come together and work …”
Rod Wong Apr 24, 2023 ▶ 21:13 Rod Wong – Empty Rooms: Innovation in Biotech at RTW (Capital Allocators, EP. 310)
Apr 24, 2023 bearish
Opinion
Rod Wong: Payer pushback on drug pricing is biotech's top long-term risk
“You know, I think one of the things I'm most concerned about is payers and the pressure that we're seeing on paying for innovation in drug development. That's probably my number one long-term concern.”
Rod Wong Apr 24, 2023 ▶ 52:59 Rod Wong – Empty Rooms: Innovation in Biotech at RTW (Capital Allocators, EP. 310)
Apr 24, 2023
Insight
Wong: Biotech positions above 5% require commercial revenue support
“So we'll have larger positions that are five to 10% plus of the portfolio. That must mean that those larger positions have some kind of base business value support. They sell a drug on the market, and we're playing for the second drug. And then you have a numb…”
Rod Wong Apr 24, 2023 ▶ 36:43 Rod Wong – Empty Rooms: Innovation in Biotech at RTW (Capital Allocators, EP. 310)
Apr 24, 2023 negative
Disclosure
Wong: RTW's second-largest loss was a short position against MAP Pharmaceuticals
“Our second largest loser was actually a short position against a company called Map Pharma. They're developing a single use inhaler for migraine. And the very short version of the story is our research said that That they can't manufacture this stuff.”
Rod Wong Apr 24, 2023 ▶ 29:21 Rod Wong – Empty Rooms: Innovation in Biotech at RTW (Capital Allocators, EP. 310)
Apr 24, 2023 negative
Insight
Wong: Lone-wolf leadership and lack of structure cause scaling biotech firms to fail
“It's very hard, especially when the wiring of your leadership, everything that's gotten them to that point are the same things that will cause their business to fail. Being a lone wolf, not embracing teamwork, not embracing structure. I think that's one key th…”
Rod Wong Apr 24, 2023 ▶ 49:28 Rod Wong – Empty Rooms: Innovation in Biotech at RTW (Capital Allocators, EP. 310)
Apr 24, 2023 negative
Insight
Wong: Biotech investors fail when passion for science overrides risk management
“I think another key thing is falling in love with science and not doing the risk management part of the job properly.”
Rod Wong Apr 24, 2023 ▶ 49:47 Rod Wong – Empty Rooms: Innovation in Biotech at RTW (Capital Allocators, EP. 310)
Apr 24, 2023
Insight
Wong: Biotech multi-baggers require multi-stage support over roughly five years
“When you think about what actually drives the business or the returns of the funds, it is finding things early when they're misunderstood or simply no one's paying attention, doing the work, getting convicted, and then supporting it along multiple steps, stage…”
Rod Wong Apr 24, 2023 ▶ 28:03 Rod Wong – Empty Rooms: Innovation in Biotech at RTW (Capital Allocators, EP. 310)
Apr 24, 2023 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Wong: Biotech innovation boom will drive drug development for decades
“I think it's those two factors that are driving the boom, and I think, you know, it should be a couple decades at least of then improving these modalities, utilizing the information, and just getting a lot more drugs developed.”
Rod Wong Apr 24, 2023 ▶ 13:36 Rod Wong – Empty Rooms: Innovation in Biotech at RTW (Capital Allocators, EP. 310)
Apr 24, 2023 negative
Insight
Wong: Long-term biotech investing struggles within non-specialized firms
“I mean, honestly, I think biotech, especially the way we, that I've always done it, which is longer term oriented, is difficult to fit in any larger firm that's not focused only on healthcare.”
Rod Wong Apr 24, 2023 ▶ 9:51 Rod Wong – Empty Rooms: Innovation in Biotech at RTW (Capital Allocators, EP. 310)
Apr 24, 2023 neutral
Disclosure
Wong: RTW slashed its maximum short position sizing rules
“One adjustment that we made as a result was on our shorts. We slashed the max position size.”
Rod Wong Apr 24, 2023 ▶ 30:22 Rod Wong – Empty Rooms: Innovation in Biotech at RTW (Capital Allocators, EP. 310)
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