Overlook Group

16 statements across 1 episodes · 8 bullish · 2 bearish · 1 people on the record · first statement Aug 14, 2017 by Richard Lawrence · said 8 times in 1 episodes since 2017 · across every show →

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Aug 14, 2017
Disclosure
Overlook's portfolio dropped from $120M to $40M during the Asian Financial Crisis
“I think at the peak, we turned a 120 into about 40 million. We turned about a hundred and twenty million into 40. We were down 45 and then down to like another 20. 25 before it finally just from exhaustion turned.”
Richard Lawrence Aug 14, 2017 ▶ 19:37 Richard Lawrence – Compounding in Asia (Capital Allocators, EP.21)
Aug 14, 2017 neutral
Disclosure
Overlook limits its portfolio to 22 names, forcing sales for new ideas
“If you're really limited to 22 names, something's, if something's gotta get in the portfolio, you're gonna go shoot something.”
Richard Lawrence Aug 14, 2017 ▶ 42:50 Richard Lawrence – Compounding in Asia (Capital Allocators, EP.21)
Aug 14, 2017 positive
Disclosure
Overlook's largest LP suffered a 60% drawdown before making hundreds of millions
“Well, my largest investor left right before it really hit in June of I replaced him, and then calmly took my new largest investor down by 60%, but then they came back in with additional capital, and, you know, we made them hundreds of millions of dollars after…”
Richard Lawrence Aug 14, 2017 ▶ 21:45 Richard Lawrence – Compounding in Asia (Capital Allocators, EP.21)
Aug 14, 2017
Insight
Superior businesses self-finance growth and maintain debt-free balance sheets
“Superior businesses have free cash flow. They generate cash. They have a large moat. They have high returns on investment, whether you return on equity, operating return, however you want to do it. They largely have debt free balance sheets, and they're self-f…”
Richard Lawrence Aug 14, 2017 ▶ 15:09 Richard Lawrence – Compounding in Asia (Capital Allocators, EP.21)
Aug 14, 2017 positive
Disclosure
Overlook Group has held its position in TSMC for roughly 17 years
“We've owned TSMC now for over seven, well, probably 17 years.”
Richard Lawrence Aug 14, 2017 ▶ 24:22 Richard Lawrence – Compounding in Asia (Capital Allocators, EP.21)
Aug 14, 2017 bullish
Disclosure
Overlook pivoted to put the bulk of its capital into China A-shares
“But now, four years ago, we really pivoted and put the, what's today, the bulk of our money into China, particularly A shares.”
Richard Lawrence Aug 14, 2017 ▶ 26:15 Richard Lawrence – Compounding in Asia (Capital Allocators, EP.21)
Aug 14, 2017 positive
Insight
Dam depreciation schedules artificially distort China Yangtze Power's P/E multiple
“CYPC or China Yangtze Power had debt. Well, it should have debt. If there ever was a business on Earth that should have debt, that's it. But likewise, it depreciates its dams over 26 and a half years, but they're going to last over a 150 years, so that's wrong…”
Richard Lawrence Aug 14, 2017 ▶ 52:24 Richard Lawrence – Compounding in Asia (Capital Allocators, EP.21)
Aug 14, 2017 bearish
Disclosure
Overlook exits markets when macro indicators like loan-to-deposit ratios flash red
“The other reason we sell is when the macroeconomic conditions that I talked about earlier, LD ratios, current accounts, fast loan growth, no Forex reserves. When those flash red, we get out of Dodge.”
Richard Lawrence Aug 14, 2017 ▶ 42:22 Richard Lawrence – Compounding in Asia (Capital Allocators, EP.21)
Aug 14, 2017 positive
Insight
Systematic rebalancing removes emotion from selling and preserves capital
“Selling is an intensely emotional time. It's much more controversial than buying. And that's where rebalancing is so perfect because, and I'm so thankful for Charlie Ellis for teaching me this, but it's a completely unemotional event. But, you know, as stocks …”
Richard Lawrence Aug 14, 2017 ▶ 41:02 Richard Lawrence – Compounding in Asia (Capital Allocators, EP.21)
Aug 14, 2017
Disclosure
Overlook prohibits discussing a stock without completing a full financial forecast
“I have a policy that I don't want to talk about a company until I or one of my colleagues has done full financial forecast on the business.”
Richard Lawrence Aug 14, 2017 ▶ 32:43 Richard Lawrence – Compounding in Asia (Capital Allocators, EP.21)
Aug 14, 2017 negative
Disclosure
Overlook liquidated all Southeast Asian consumer stocks upon reaching 30x PE
“We had had a lot of consumer stocks in Southeast Asia, Hong Kong, and whatnot. And they all got up to 30 times earnings, and I kind of don't know how to make money from 30 to 40 PE, so we literally, we sold them all. Literally within six month time, we built u…”
Richard Lawrence Aug 14, 2017 ▶ 28:10 Richard Lawrence – Compounding in Asia (Capital Allocators, EP.21)
Aug 14, 2017 positive
Disclosure
Every investor in Overlook's fund pays the exact same management fee
“And everyone pays the same.”
Richard Lawrence Aug 14, 2017 ▶ 49:24 Richard Lawrence – Compounding in Asia (Capital Allocators, EP.21)
Aug 14, 2017 bullish
Disclosure
Overlook bought Kingboard at 2.5x and Café de Coral at 6x P/E
“October in 1998, so right towards the end, we had just raised thirty million, so taking us from forty million back up to 50, 60, seventy million. And within one week, we found two companies in Fosan, Hong Kong. Kingboard Chemical at about two and a half times …”
Richard Lawrence Aug 14, 2017 ▶ 19:59 Richard Lawrence – Compounding in Asia (Capital Allocators, EP.21)
Aug 14, 2017 neutral
Disclosure
Overlook cuts management fees only after good years to avoid signaling weakness
“And what I do is I cut after good years. After bad years, I don't cut. I don't want to show a sign of weakness.”
Richard Lawrence Aug 14, 2017 ▶ 50:07 Richard Lawrence – Compounding in Asia (Capital Allocators, EP.21)
Aug 14, 2017 positive
Insight
Fund managers must offer radical transparency to investors during bear markets
“I have created what you call the roadmap for a bear market, so calling every single investor more transparency, more discussion, more You know, give them the detail and the transparency through the portfolio. You can't hide. There's no denying I just kicked th…”
Richard Lawrence Aug 14, 2017 ▶ 22:08 Richard Lawrence – Compounding in Asia (Capital Allocators, EP.21)
Aug 14, 2017
Disclosure
Overlook visits 400 companies yearly, analyzes 30-40, and buys three to five
“One of them is we visit 400 companies a year. We do analysis on 30 to 40, and we end up buying three or four or five.”
Richard Lawrence Aug 14, 2017 ▶ 31:53 Richard Lawrence – Compounding in Asia (Capital Allocators, EP.21)
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