One River Asset Management

also referred to as: one river

25 statements across 3 episodes · 15 bullish · 3 bearish · 1 people on the record · first statement Apr 6, 2020 by Eric Peters · said 33 times in 9 episodes since 2020 · across every show →

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Apr 6, 2020 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Peters: Private equity is done and managers will emerge looking terrible
“This is the kind of thing that may make me look foolish. I think private equity is done. I think that it will always be an investment style like it has for over the course of my career. It was just LBO investing when I started, I guess now it's private equity,…”
Eric Peters Apr 6, 2020 ▶ 39:49 Eric Peters – Trading and Evolution at One River (First Meeting, EP.18)
Apr 6, 2020
Insight
Peters: Cheaper hedges that offset negative carry often blow up in dislocations
“So what inevitably happens, and this is a hugely important lesson is when people are trying to mitigate a risk, there is an expensive way to do it, which is usually sound. And there are a whole range of cheaper ways to mitigate it in ways where you offset the …”
Eric Peters Apr 6, 2020 ▶ 17:08 Eric Peters – Trading and Evolution at One River (First Meeting, EP.18)
Apr 6, 2020 neutral
Insight
Peters: Most Allocators Lack Infrastructure for Active Macro Tilting
“There was a much, much bigger group of interested investors who loved the idea of being able to tilt their portfolio with the types of themes that we developed. But when push came to shove, we looked so different that they didn't have the investment team infra…”
Eric Peters Apr 6, 2020 ▶ 23:20 Eric Peters – Trading and Evolution at One River (First Meeting, EP.18)
Apr 6, 2020 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Peters: Post-COVID relative value volatility will be a target-rich environment
“And I think coming out of this crisis, it's going to be a very target rich environment for a strategy like that, because there are so few players left in it. And whenever you start dislocating markets like this, The people who can manage the risk well through …”
Eric Peters Apr 6, 2020 ▶ 26:43 Eric Peters – Trading and Evolution at One River (First Meeting, EP.18)
Apr 6, 2020 neutral
Disclosure
Peters: One River exited all equity positions in late February 2020
“We got out of all of our equities in the second half of February.”
Eric Peters Apr 6, 2020 ▶ 30:18 Eric Peters – Trading and Evolution at One River (First Meeting, EP.18)
Apr 6, 2020 bullish
Insight
Peters: Trend following works because humans cannot comprehend the scale of change
“I think that we get paid to trade long-term trends because the world is always changing, and there are certain times in history it's changing more dramatically and perhaps quickly than others, but the world is always changing, and it's difficult for humans to …”
Eric Peters Apr 6, 2020 ▶ 28:19 Eric Peters – Trading and Evolution at One River (First Meeting, EP.18)
Apr 6, 2020
Disclosure
Peters: One River launched using fund-of-one structures for every initial client
“Every one of the clients that we had initially had a fund of one with us, and we would identify what we thought were the most important opportunities, either bullish or bearish, that we saw on the horizon, and then they could allocate to one or more of those s…”
Eric Peters Apr 6, 2020 ▶ 20:22 Eric Peters – Trading and Evolution at One River (First Meeting, EP.18)
Mar 8, 2021 bullish
Assertion Supported
Peters: One River's First Public Statements Moved Bitcoin 15-25%
“The first three times, you know, Though we've said anything, Bitcoin has moved by 15 to 25% within a couple days, which is kind of wild.”
Eric Peters Mar 8, 2021 ▶ 44:38 Crypto for Institutions 1: Eric Peters – The Macro Case for Bitcoin (Capital Allocators, EP.180)
Mar 8, 2021 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Peters: Post-Pandemic Policy Response Marks Beginning of Major Monetary Debasement
“We've expressed views that it's highly likely that the late stage of this long economic and market and debt cycle Will lead to a large monetary debasement essentially, which by the way, if you're a market historian, that's kind of obvious that that happens. Th…”
Eric Peters Mar 8, 2021 ▶ 28:01 Crypto for Institutions 1: Eric Peters – The Macro Case for Bitcoin (Capital Allocators, EP.180)
Mar 8, 2021 bullish
Disclosure
Peters: One River Made Historic Institutional Crypto Entry at $15,000
“When I think about it as a trader, when we decided to get into this marketplace and made at the time, which was the biggest institutional asset allocation in the space, we wanted to figure out what were the best sources of liquidity to quietly get the exposure…”
Eric Peters Mar 8, 2021 ▶ 19:43 Crypto for Institutions 1: Eric Peters – The Macro Case for Bitcoin (Capital Allocators, EP.180)
Mar 8, 2021 bullish
Opinion
Peters: Crypto Is a Deeply Discounted, Highly Convex Version of Gold
“These assets are just uniquely positioned to do well, by the way, gold should do well as well, except these are just this really interesting, highly convex version of gold. That's I think just deeply discounted.”
Eric Peters Mar 8, 2021 ▶ 29:49 Crypto for Institutions 1: Eric Peters – The Macro Case for Bitcoin (Capital Allocators, EP.180)
Mar 8, 2021 bullish
Disclosure
Peters: One River Purchased Over $600M in Digital Assets
“We bought, I think this is all public information, we bought over six hundred million dollars of digital assets.”
Eric Peters Mar 8, 2021 ▶ 43:36 Crypto for Institutions 1: Eric Peters – The Macro Case for Bitcoin (Capital Allocators, EP.180)
Mar 8, 2021 negative
Opinion
Peters: Good Institutional Investment Vehicles for Crypto Do Not Exist
“What I've learned through this process is that there just aren't good vehicles for them to invest in.”
Eric Peters Mar 8, 2021 ▶ 53:18 Crypto for Institutions 1: Eric Peters – The Macro Case for Bitcoin (Capital Allocators, EP.180)
Mar 8, 2021 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Peters: Institutional Allocations to Crypto Remain Small and Subscale
“We speak with institutions all the time and by and large, some have very small investments in the space, either through a venture deal that they did Or maybe with, there was someone at the investment team that had great foresight and said, listen, we should st…”
Eric Peters Mar 8, 2021 ▶ 18:05 Crypto for Institutions 1: Eric Peters – The Macro Case for Bitcoin (Capital Allocators, EP.180)
Dec 16, 2024 positive
Disclosure
Peters: One River Advisor Kevin Hassett Driving Trump Economic Strategy
“Kevin Hassett, who's one of our advisors, is gonna be involved driving economic strategy.”
Eric Peters Dec 16, 2024 ▶ 42:27 Eric Peters - Paradigm Shifts and Solutions at One River (EP.422)
Dec 16, 2024 positive
Insight
Peters: Rebalancing hedging profits during drawdowns boosts post-bear market compounding
“Even though equities are deeply discounted, but you're rotating money back into the S&P. When that market correction or bear market ends, you're now compounding from a much higher base than if you just owned equities the whole time.”
Eric Peters Dec 16, 2024 ▶ 22:42 Eric Peters - Paradigm Shifts and Solutions at One River (EP.422)
Dec 16, 2024 positive
Insight
Peters: Systematic Calendar Rebalancing Outperforms Threshold-Based Approaches
“Threshold is inferior statistically, and the probability of really getting it wrong is much higher, but people are still going to do it. I completely understand why, but if you have, in a way, if you can make the choice to do it in a dispassionate way, over ti…”
Eric Peters Dec 16, 2024 ▶ 25:31 Eric Peters - Paradigm Shifts and Solutions at One River (EP.422)
Dec 16, 2024 positive
Disclosure
Peters: Running Both One River and Coinbase Asset Management
“We built out a crypto asset manager. Coinbase acquired that about a year and a half ago, which I saw that as a once in a lifetime opportunity. So I actually run two firms right now.”
Eric Peters Dec 16, 2024 ▶ 27:56 Eric Peters - Paradigm Shifts and Solutions at One River (EP.422)
Dec 16, 2024 positive
Insight
Peters: Monthly Calendar Rebalancing Is the Optimal Strategy
“The conclusion from that was actually the optimal approach is pretty simple, actually. Somewhere around a month is a pretty good place to be.”
Eric Peters Dec 16, 2024 ▶ 23:17 Eric Peters - Paradigm Shifts and Solutions at One River (EP.422)
Dec 16, 2024 bullish
Insight
Peters: Stacking Leveraged Beta With Convexity Drives Massive Compounding Through Rebalancing
“The result of it is if you combine equity beta in a leverage way, like a portable alpha type return stacking way, with what we do at this firm, our strategies are negatively correlated, positively convex, So anytime there's a wobble in the market, what we do s…”
Eric Peters Dec 16, 2024 ▶ 10:13 Eric Peters - Paradigm Shifts and Solutions at One River (EP.422)
Dec 16, 2024 bullish
Disclosure
Peters: Building infrastructure to tokenize traditional assets and real-world loans
“We started building a platform which is going to be infrastructure for tokenizing essentially all traditional assets as opposed to tokens like Bitcoin or Ethereum. So taking real world assets or traditional stocks and bonds and all sorts of loans and someday a…”
Eric Peters Dec 16, 2024 ▶ 27:38 Eric Peters - Paradigm Shifts and Solutions at One River (EP.422)
Dec 16, 2024 positive
Disclosure
Peters: One River Only Holds Long-Volatility Positions
“We have a very purist approach, and when I'm purist, I mean, we only ever are long-fall. We never are short-fall, and the reason for that is over my career, which is now 35 years, at every cycle, I have seen people who have convinced themselves they're long-fa…”
Eric Peters Dec 16, 2024 ▶ 18:05 Eric Peters - Paradigm Shifts and Solutions at One River (EP.422)
Dec 16, 2024
Insight
Peters: Asset managers must narrow focus to scale before resuming experimentation
“When you start an asset manager, You gotta figure out what works, what makes you special, and you might have to try a number of things, and then at some point, if you're fortunate, you figure it out. So you're just surviving, which we did for a lot of years, a…”
Eric Peters Dec 16, 2024 ▶ 36:07 Eric Peters - Paradigm Shifts and Solutions at One River (EP.422)
Dec 16, 2024 bullish
Disclosure
Peters: One River entered crypto in November 2020
“And then we also entered crypto in November of 2020. And that was really to express one of those themes, which was monetary debasement and also captured some of the convexity of this new technology that was poorly understood at that time.”
Eric Peters Dec 16, 2024 ▶ 8:47 Eric Peters - Paradigm Shifts and Solutions at One River (EP.422)
Dec 16, 2024 neutral
Insight
Peters: Equities Drive 90% of Institutional Portfolio Risk
“If you look at the real risk in their portfolio, it's probably 90% driven by equities, and it comes in all sorts of different forms, private equity, public equity, credit. You end up with portfolios that there's just one risk factor, which is equities.”
Eric Peters Dec 16, 2024 ▶ 19:30 Eric Peters - Paradigm Shifts and Solutions at One River (EP.422)
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