New Zealand Superannuation Fund

35 statements across 2 episodes · 12 bullish · 3 bearish · 2 people on the record · first statement Oct 23, 2017 by Ashby Monk · said 47 times in 10 episodes since 2017 · across every show →

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Everything said about New Zealand Superannuation Fund, oldest first

Oct 23, 2017 positive
Opinion
Monk: New Zealand Superfund is the world's best asset-owner organization
“The New Zealand Superfund, which just clocked 20% return this year, and I would argue is the single best investment organization on the asset owner side in the planet today”
Ashby Monk Oct 23, 2017 ▶ 26:07 Ashby Monk – Asset Giant Futurist (Capital Allocators, EP.29)
Sep 9, 2019
Disclosure
NZ Super structures active risk allocation across five opportunity baskets
“The risk budgeting process says, alright, we've got a bunch of opportunities, we'll put them into these five different baskets, is what we call them, and then we'll allocate some risk through time to those things, and then the teams are then tasked with going …”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 24:22 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019
Disclosure
Whineray: NZ Super Fund's reference portfolio is purely passive and listed
“The reference portfolio is just a pure passive listed expression.”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 14:14 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Whineray: NZ Super Fund could reach $80B in 6–7 years
“So we'll get a couple of billion dollars a year, and touch wood, we'll get some investment returns on top of that, and so we'll grow quite a lot faster. So fast forward six, seven years, we could be eighty billion dollars.”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 57:48 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019 positive
Insight
External managers provide better flexibility for cyclical mandates
“In a construct like ours where through time we might be in those, we might not be in those, it's very hard if you've built the team internally to say, actually, we just don't want to invest anything in this opportunity, because then you've got a team who's sit…”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 33:38 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019 positive
Insight
Whineray: Storytelling reveals authentic organizational values better than direct questioning
“So you're not going to someone and saying, Oh, what are you value? You're going to someone and say, tell us a story. And those stories are really powerful. And we got great engagement with it and came up with a new set of values for the organization.”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 59:36 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019 positive
Assertion Supported
Whineray: NZ Super Fund switched to reference portfolio framework in 2010
“In the beginning, we started with a strategic asset allocation. From 2010, we switched to a portfolio construction approach where we use a reference portfolio.”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 11:21 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019
Assertion Supported
Whineray: NZ Super Fund is legally prohibited from owning 100% of any private business
“Because we have a restriction in our legislation that says that we can't control any entity, so we can't own a hundred percent of a private business. We have to have partners.”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 15:15 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019 positive
Insight
Reference portfolios create clearer decision accountability than SAA models
“You're able to much better attribute accountability for decisions because in an SAA world, you can never actually be at five percent infrastructure. So why are you not there? Are you not there because management has chosen not to be there because they don't re…”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 31:02 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019
Disclosure
NZ Super prioritizes risk allocation control and fewer, larger manager relationships
“What the target operating model sees is we want to have sort of simpler processes. We've got, want to have more control over the allocation. So that is the risk allocation that, as opposed to the individual investment decisions, but the risk allocation, we wan…”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 22:06 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019 positive
Disclosure
NZ Super Fund uses Canyon and Bain for distressed credit
“Other things like stress credit, we'll use Canyon or Bain because we're not going to be able to have that expertise in house”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 27:14 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019
Assertion Supported
Whineray: NZ Super Fund mandate has three statutory requirements
“So what the mandate says is, We need to maximize return without undue risk. We need to use best practice portfolio management, and we need to not prejudice New Zealand's position as a responsible member of the world community.”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 9:56 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019
Disclosure
Whineray: NZ Super Fund avoids security-level strategic tilting
“So we haven't gone down below to sector or individual securities because we're more confident at the whole of market level of being able to say, what do we think the long run equilibrium prices or value is? And then compare that to the current price. When you …”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 36:31 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019 positive
Insight
Whineray: Risk budgets should be fixed for years while targets adjust
“So the target does move around. The budget doesn't. Budget we should be looking at every few years, because that shouldn't be changing much. I mean, what's your relative confidence in timber versus global macro versus distressed, or whatever it happens to be. …”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 28:29 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019 negative
Insight
Strategic asset allocation forces allocations regardless of market attractiveness
“The SAA says you're going to have five percent infrastructure whether you think it's attractive or not. You're going to have five percent timber whether you think it's attractive at the time or not. We wanted that to be a little bit more dynamic and a little b…”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 30:37 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019
Disclosure
Whineray: Strategic tilting is NZ Super Fund's largest active risk
“Strategic tilting, biggest chunk of active risk in the fund. We do that ourselves.”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 27:03 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019
Disclosure
Whineray: NZ Super Fund's reference portfolio is 80% equities and 20% fixed income
“Eighty-twenty. So it's a pretty growthy portfolio. So there's 65 developed market equities, 10 emerging market, five New Zealand equities, that adds up to 80, and then 20% fixed income.”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 19:33 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019 positive
Assertion Supported
NZ Super Fund beat benchmark in 11 of 15 years
“I think we've had 11 positive value add years over the last 15. We've added nearly one and a half percent a year, which is worth sort of eight billion to the New Zealand taxpayer.”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 21:01 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019 positive
Prediction Held up
Whineray: NZ Super Fund is forecast to grow through the end of the century
“And so at the moment that model shows Some withdrawals from the fund in the mid- twenty-thirties, but it's a function of the way that model's working that there are some withdrawals then, but really the big withdrawals start in the mid- twenty-fifties. But eve…”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 9:21 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019
Disclosure
NZ Super Fund manages strategic tilting entirely through derivatives
“Strategic tilting is entirely managed through derivatives. It benefits from the liquidity management that our portfolio completion team runs and the counterparty risk that we represent as a fund as a whole.”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 32:32 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019
Insight
Whineray: Expanding tilting breadth to individual securities degrades performance
“So you can increase breadth, but I think you reduce confidence, and so we probably don't improve the performance of that by doing that. I think that's the key, is to have breadth of non, hopefully uncorrelated positions, but without destroying the confidence b…”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 36:54 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019 neutral
Assertion Supported
Whineray: NZ Super Fund is managing a new 300M venture mandate
“The new mandate's small comparatively. It's only going to be about three hundred million compared to forty two billion, so you've got a lot of disparity”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 57:22 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019
Disclosure
NZ Super Fund leads $10T investor coalition on social media moderation
“Post the Tragedy in Christchurch, we, together with another group of the New Zealand Crown Investors. We got together to lead an engagement with the social media companies about the, well, aimed at preventing the live streaming of objectionable content and sub…”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 54:45 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019 neutral
Insight
Whineray: Manager capital deployment pace signals market attractiveness
“Generally speaking, if a manager is slow from allocation perspective in terms of, well, slow versus what, but you know, not seeing lots of opportunities, that's pretty useful information for us, because that says, well, actually, maybe this isn't that attracti…”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 43:48 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019 positive
Disclosure
Whineray: NZ Super team structure protects against manager capture
“The other way we try to deal with that is those risk basket teams have got a bunch of different people in them, so that it's not just the person who is dealing with the manager at the access point level who is doing the target allocation, it's that team that's…”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 45:06 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019 positive
Insight
Whineray: Asset allocation drives the bulk of portfolio outcomes
“Asset allocation is the key investment decision, so that bulk of the outcomes are determined by what your asset allocation is.”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 16:38 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019 neutral
Disclosure
Whineray: NZ Super Fund allocates 2.5% active risk to strategic tilting
“The budget for tilting at the moment is about two and a half percent active risk at the fund level, within a total active risk budget of four percent.”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 39:16 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019
Disclosure
Whineray: NZ Super Fund brought global proxy voting in-house
“We brought that in-house last year. We vote all of our shares globally, and then we also have an active engagement program.”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 54:38 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019 neutral
Disclosure
NZ Super Fund investment function employs 55 to 60 people
“So there's about 50 in the investment group. There's about 10, I think, in the portfolio, the overall portfolio completion. So maybe we're in the sort of the 55, 60, somewhere around there.”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 46:39 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019
Insight
Whineray: Long-term investing fundamentally means never being forced to sell
“Ultimately, it means you're never forced to sell something. Your long horizon allows you to hold things through cycles and allows you to withstand volatility as long as it's combined with that liquidity, the liquidity profile allows you to do that.”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 13:00 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019 negative
Disclosure
NZ Super Fund lacked liquidity visibility before the GFC
“We created that after the GFC. So going into the GFC, all of our stuff was outsourced, and we didn't have great views of almost anything, liquidity or risk or any of that.”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 40:16 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019 negative
Insight
Whineray: Manager skill is rare and difficult to identify in advance
“Manager skill is rare, so the ability to consistently beat a benchmark, it's really hard to identify in advance. Sometimes it's often hard to identify after the fact, right?”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 17:05 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019 neutral
Insight
Whineray: Bespoke mandates require larger, sophisticated asset managers
“If you've got a bunch of different mandates, and you've got a fund, for example, and you find an asset, you've then got to say, okay, well, I'm going to give three bits to the fund, and one bit to this mandate, you know. That sort of allocation infrastructure,…”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 43:06 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019 neutral
Disclosure
Whineray: NZ Super Fund holds zero active managers in developed listed markets
“We've got two managers in New Zealand that run active equities. We've got one global emerging markets active manager, and that's it. Right. So we don't have any developed markets, active managers. We don't have any fixed income market active managers in those …”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 47:46 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Sep 9, 2019
Assertion Supported
NZ Super Fund holds roughly $42 billion in assets
“About forty two billion today.”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 8:12 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
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