multi-strategy hedge funds

13 statements across 7 episodes · 4 bullish · 4 bearish · 6 people on the record · first statement Sep 24, 2018 by Raphael Arndt · across every show →

Everything said about multi-strategy hedge funds, oldest first

Sep 24, 2018 bearish
Opinion
Arndt: Many Large Multi-Strategy Hedge Funds Merely Deliver Expensive Beta
“Those large hedge fund, sort of multi-strategy hedge funds, many of them have delivered significant beta, whether it's equity beta, or credit beta, or other sort of momentum type exposure. And that is not something we want to pay for.”
Raphael Arndt Sep 24, 2018 ▶ 40:03 Raphael Arndt – Australia's Sovereign Wealth Fund CIO (Capital Allocators, Episode 70)
May 2, 2022 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Dowling: Good multi-strat hedge funds can earn 6% to 7% in 2022
“I think a good multi-strat manager can earn six or seven percent, and that's nowhere near what it returned in the nineties, early 2000, but that might be pretty good this year.”
Greg Dowling May 2, 2022 ▶ 43:33 Greg Dowling – Mid-Market Institutional Consulting at FEG (Capital Allocators, EP.248)
May 2, 2022 positive
Insight
Dowling: Conservative multi-strategy hedge funds can serve as fixed income proxies
“So we've even said for some investors, maybe you think about having some of the more conservative multi-strat hedge fund managers and think about it as a fixed income proxy.”
Greg Dowling May 2, 2022 ▶ 43:53 Greg Dowling – Mid-Market Institutional Consulting at FEG (Capital Allocators, EP.248)
Jul 3, 2023 neutral
Insight
Daniel: Multi-manager volatility targeting dictates modern daily market flows
“The lower the volatility in the world, the more capital they're deploying. And that was a very interesting concept for us. A concept to that was an eye opening experience. And more importantly, probably now it is dictating a lot of the flows and the performanc…”
Vincent Daniel Jul 3, 2023 ▶ 21:43 Porter Collins and Vincent Daniel - Big Shorts and Big Longs (Capital Allocators, EP.325)
Jul 3, 2023 negative
Insight
Daniel: High leverage forces multi-manager hedge funds into short-term momentum trading
“If you work at these shops, it took me a while to figure out, but almost all of them Are 90, 95% of the time long short-term momentum, which is in English is long something that is working right now. And when you think why they have to do it, if you're so leve…”
Vincent Daniel Jul 3, 2023 ▶ 24:12 Porter Collins and Vincent Daniel - Big Shorts and Big Longs (Capital Allocators, EP.325)
Oct 2, 2023 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Multi-strat funds survived Schonfeld's early days while single-manager funds failed
“If you look today and see how many of those funds are still around, very, very few of the single manager funds are still around. But the multi-strats we invested in at the time, most of them are around.”
Dmitry Balyasny Oct 2, 2023 ▶ 35:09 Dmitry Balyasny – Multi-Strategy Platform at BAM (EP.341)
Oct 2, 2023 neutral
Insight
Scaling multi-strategy verticals requires partnering with business builders, not just capital
“So it's much more than just hiring people and giving them capital, although that's obviously a significant and important part of it, but a lot of it is you're really trying to partner with business builders in these different areas that bring a lot of that Tho…”
Dmitry Balyasny Oct 2, 2023 ▶ 19:48 Dmitry Balyasny – Multi-Strategy Platform at BAM (EP.341)
Jan 16, 2025 negative
Insight
Isch: Multi-strategy funds fail when risk models miss frequent tail events
“Most of the time what you're looking at, if you're looking at a predicted beta or a predicted vol number, is a one standard deviation, 68% confidence interval, best guess average of what the next three to six months are going to look like if they looked like t…”
Roberto Ish Jan 16, 2025 ▶ 32:08 Mark Sullivan and Roberto Isch – Hedge Fund Investing at Wellington (EP.427)
Sep 1, 2025 bearish
Opinion
Arndt: Large multi-strategy hedge funds often charge alpha fees for pure beta
“Those large hedge fund, sort of multi-strategy hedge funds, Many of them have delivered significant beta, whether it's equity beta or credit beta, and that is not something we want to pay for.”
Raphael Arndt Sep 1, 2025 ▶ 38:53 CIO Greatest Hits: Sovereign Wealth Funds – Raphael Arndt (Australia Future Fund)
Feb 16, 2026
Insight
Jain: Multi-strategy funds make money in high vol, lose during transition
“Generally speaking, in these models, you make more money in a high-vol environment, but you lose money in the move from a low-vol environment to a high-vol environment.”
Bobby Jain Feb 16, 2026 ▶ 46:21 Bobby Jain – Multi-Strategy Hedge Fund First Principles at Jain Global (EP.487)
Feb 16, 2026 neutral
Insight
Jain: Post-GFC risk migrated from banks to private credit, prop shops, and multi-strats
“There's two clear industries that have moved from the banks to the private sector. One is the private credit industry is effectively taking what the banks are doing and doing that off asset manager balance sheets. One is the market making industry, taking what…”
Bobby Jain Feb 16, 2026 ▶ 16:12 Bobby Jain – Multi-Strategy Hedge Fund First Principles at Jain Global (EP.487)
Feb 16, 2026 positive
Insight
Bobby Jain: Multi-manager funds achieve 10% net returns at 5% volatility
“There's more math than that, but let's just say, simply speaking, in a multi-strategy firm, if you have enough diversification, You can run, as most of these multi-managers have done, a five vol to make a 10% net return.”
Bobby Jain Feb 16, 2026 ▶ 19:42 Bobby Jain – Multi-Strategy Hedge Fund First Principles at Jain Global (EP.487)
Feb 16, 2026 neutral
Insight
Bobby Jain: Many multi-manager funds operate as lead-actor core-satellite models
“A lot of these firms are effectively core satellite. It was a great PM that started a business, then learned that they could raise more money, and they started diversifying. But at the end of the day, the whole ecosystem is a lead actor and supporting actors.”
Bobby Jain Feb 16, 2026 ▶ 21:26 Bobby Jain – Multi-Strategy Hedge Fund First Principles at Jain Global (EP.487)
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