David Lyon

12 statements across 1 episodes · 0 bullish · 8 bearish · 1 people on the record · first statement Nov 17, 2025 by David Lyon · said 2 times in 2 episodes since 2026 · across every show →

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Nov 17, 2025 neutral
Insight
Lyon: Early PE Required Less Investment Depth Due to Favorable LBO Math
“People didn't have his deep investment chops back then because at a time you could buy an asset for eight times EBITDA. You could lever it six. The LBO math did most of the work for you in terms of return.”
David Lyon Nov 17, 2025 ▶ 13:44 David Lyon – Hybrid Capital Solutions for Private Assets (EP.471)
Nov 17, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Lyon: Unitranche borrowing costs moved from 6.25% in 2021 to around 9%
“Used to be able to borrow Unitronch back in 21 at six and a quarter percent. Now those numbers are around nine and changed today. They were 13.”
David Lyon Nov 17, 2025 ▶ 24:05 David Lyon – Hybrid Capital Solutions for Private Assets (EP.471)
Nov 17, 2025 negative
Insight
Lyon: Restructurings fail if senior creditors wipe out sponsor and management equity
“You can't take the majority owner of a company and say, you're a zero. I have all the value at the hold co. Have a nice day. Are you going to manage the business? Are you going to show up at every board meeting? You just told the CEO and his team or her team t…”
David Lyon Nov 17, 2025 ▶ 1:00:12 David Lyon – Hybrid Capital Solutions for Private Assets (EP.471)
Nov 17, 2025 negative
Insight
Lyon: Generalist Auction-Driven PE with Max Leverage Fails Long-Term
“Being a generalist, looking at auctions and trying to get as much leverage as possible and do an LBO model, I don't think was a winning recipe for long-term success.”
David Lyon Nov 17, 2025 ▶ 14:58 David Lyon – Hybrid Capital Solutions for Private Assets (EP.471)
Nov 17, 2025 negative
Insight
Lyon: Basing a Private Equity Thesis Solely on Management Is Dangerous
“The final thing that I learned is when your thesis in private equity is a person, So-and-so is amazing. That's very dangerous. It's great to back a person. You have to realize that your thesis is, I'm backing a person. And God forbid something goes wrong, and …”
David Lyon Nov 17, 2025 ▶ 15:42 David Lyon – Hybrid Capital Solutions for Private Assets (EP.471)
Nov 17, 2025 bearish
Opinion
Lyon: Building a diversified portfolio of 20 distressed companies is impossible
“I don't believe it's possible for any single person to assemble a reasonably diversified portfolio of 20 broken things. You can have an edge in one or two things where you think there's possibility to turn it around. You might know an operating executive or un…”
David Lyon Nov 17, 2025 ▶ 31:35 David Lyon – Hybrid Capital Solutions for Private Assets (EP.471)
Nov 17, 2025 negative
Insight
Lyon: Enforcing contractual liquidity rights on overpriced structured equity fails
“The worst thing possible to do is, well, I think this is overpriced. It makes no sense, but I have a one-five. That's a good way to lose money, because you're going to be misaligned from the get-go, and enforcing liquidity rights that you have in documentation…”
David Lyon Nov 17, 2025 ▶ 48:53 David Lyon – Hybrid Capital Solutions for Private Assets (EP.471)
Nov 17, 2025 negative
Opinion
Lyon: The 'good company, bad balance sheet' distress dynamic no longer exists
“The aphorism, good company, bad balance sheet, by the way, never exists anymore.”
David Lyon Nov 17, 2025 ▶ 17:06 David Lyon – Hybrid Capital Solutions for Private Assets (EP.471)
Nov 17, 2025 neutral
Insight
Lyon: Only four structural terms actually matter in credit and hybrid documentation
“There are four things that matter. The ability to put debt on top of you, the ability to take assets away, the ability to take money out of the system, the economic terms of your agreement.”
David Lyon Nov 17, 2025 ▶ 1:03:05 David Lyon – Hybrid Capital Solutions for Private Assets (EP.471)
Nov 17, 2025 negative
Disclosure
Lyon: Neuberger Berman avoids backing companies chaired by professional board members
“Having a financial guy as chairman of a company I don't want that. I don't want someone on eight boards. I want someone who lives it and breathes it.”
David Lyon Nov 17, 2025 ▶ 55:32 David Lyon – Hybrid Capital Solutions for Private Assets (EP.471)
Nov 17, 2025
Insight
Lyon: Performing Companies Quickly Refinance Expensive 16% Preferred Equity Bridges
“When you're doing straight preferreds, oftentimes they just refinance us out. You are a bridge in the structure between six and eight times, If the company does it all well, they're very quickly going to eliminate 16% money.”
David Lyon Nov 17, 2025 ▶ 58:27 David Lyon – Hybrid Capital Solutions for Private Assets (EP.471)
Nov 17, 2025 negative
Insight
Lyon: Value trap theses based on cost-cutting always perform poorly
“My least favorite theses are value traps. I'm going to fire X, Y, and Z, and I'll be able to create an X multiple. Other people may do this well. In my 31, 32 years of doing this, that's always gone poorly. I will take top line Over terminating people, cutting…”
David Lyon Nov 17, 2025 ▶ 53:58 David Lyon – Hybrid Capital Solutions for Private Assets (EP.471)
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