Charlie Ellis

24 statements across 8 episodes · 11 bullish · 9 bearish · 5 people on the record · first statement May 22, 2017 by Charlie Ellis · across every show →

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May 22, 2017 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Ellis: 1960s equity research was formulaic and backward-looking
“First, there was almost no research available. Standard & Poor's put out six by eight inch, one side piece of paper, left-hand side would be all the history, and the right-hand side would be the stock price. It was all very formulaic and totally useless, becau…”
Charlie Ellis May 22, 2017 ▶ 12:19 Charley Ellis – Multiple Ways to Win (Capital Allocators, EP.08)
May 22, 2017 positive
Insight
Ellis: John Neff prioritized risk management over chasing earnings growth
“John was all about risk and avoiding risk. He figured if you didn't take risk, or if you manage the risk correctly, the rest would take care of itself.”
Charlie Ellis May 22, 2017 ▶ 1:12:29 Charley Ellis – Multiple Ways to Win (Capital Allocators, EP.08)
May 22, 2017 positive
Disclosure
Ellis: Family portfolio is fully indexed except for Berkshire Hathaway
“For myself, for my wife, for my sons and for my grandchildren, it's all indexed with one exception and the one exception, which you and I both know is Warren Buffett. I lucked into understanding Berkshire Hathaway way back in the seventies, and I'm not about t…”
Charlie Ellis May 22, 2017 ▶ 24:45 Charley Ellis – Multiple Ways to Win (Capital Allocators, EP.08)
May 22, 2017 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Ellis: David Swensen never raised policy changes outside annual reviews in 16 years
“Now, of course, David could later raise a question, but he never did in the 16 years that I was there. Never did.”
Charlie Ellis May 22, 2017 ▶ 56:48 Charley Ellis – Multiple Ways to Win (Capital Allocators, EP.08)
May 22, 2017 bullish
Disclosure
Ellis: Bought his first Berkshire Hathaway shares for nearly $500
“Not exactly, but I know what the price was, and it was closer to 500 dollars than anything else.”
Charlie Ellis May 22, 2017 ▶ 1:11:47 Charley Ellis – Multiple Ways to Win (Capital Allocators, EP.08)
Aug 14, 2017 positive
Insight
Systematic rebalancing removes emotion from selling and preserves capital
“Selling is an intensely emotional time. It's much more controversial than buying. And that's where rebalancing is so perfect because, and I'm so thankful for Charlie Ellis for teaching me this, but it's a completely unemotional event. But, you know, as stocks …”
Richard Lawrence Aug 14, 2017 ▶ 41:02 Richard Lawrence – Compounding in Asia (Capital Allocators, EP.21)
Mar 26, 2018 neutral
Insight
Seides: Wealth amplifies existing personality traits rather than changing them
“Money makes people more so. So the notion is, if you're a greedy person, and you have more money, you're going to be more greedy. If you are a kind person, and you have more money, you are going to express kindness in even better ways.”
Ted Seides Mar 26, 2018 ▶ 21:19 It's Not About the Money (Capital Allocators, EP.45)
Jul 30, 2018 negative
Insight
Active managers must outperform by 25% just to match index returns
“Add that up, that's somewhere around two percent has to be recovered just to keep up with the market. So two percent of eight percent is 25%. You have to beat the competition by 25%, and they know everything you know as soon as you know it, and you can only bu…”
Charlie Ellis Jul 30, 2018 ▶ 23:45 Charley Ellis - Indexing and Its Alternatives (EP.62)
Jul 30, 2018 negative
Insight
Career choices should follow daily enjoyment of work rather than passion
“When young people say, I want to go with my passion, it bothers me because passion to me is an irrational, powerful emotion, and I'm not sure if passion is the right thing To guide somebody. But if you said, no, I really enjoy the nature of the work, and I'm r…”
Charlie Ellis Jul 30, 2018 ▶ 1:04:55 Charley Ellis - Indexing and Its Alternatives (EP.62)
Jul 30, 2018 bullish
Insight
Choosing index funds guarantees top-quartile performance over the long run
“If you would like to be sure that you're a top quartile manager chooser, all you have to do is choose index funds, and the chances are you'll be the top half of the top quartile. We're sure to be in the top quartile. Long run.”
Charlie Ellis Jul 30, 2018 ▶ 25:28 Charley Ellis - Indexing and Its Alternatives (EP.62)
Jul 30, 2018
Assertion Supported
Missing the best 2% of trading days erases 50-year market returns
“Over the last 50 years, if you missed two percent of the best trading days, you missed the whole 50 years.”
Charlie Ellis Jul 30, 2018 ▶ 33:49 Charley Ellis - Indexing and Its Alternatives (EP.62)
Jul 30, 2018 positive
Disclosure
Ellis holds only two investments: index funds and Berkshire Hathaway stock
“What do you do with your own investing? Oh, I've got two kinds of investment. One is index funds, which I'm so happy with, just really comfortable with. And the second is an index fund equivalent in many ways, Berkshire Hathaway.”
Charlie Ellis Jul 30, 2018 ▶ 49:14 Charley Ellis - Indexing and Its Alternatives (EP.62)
Jul 30, 2018 bearish
Opinion
Rising entry prices are compressing future private equity returns
“Entry price for private equity has been going up and up and up. The exit price can't keep going up a lot if some stock markets on the relatively high side ought to recognize that that's probably as good as we can anticipate. Jeepers. It's getting harder and ha…”
Charlie Ellis Jul 30, 2018 ▶ 55:30 Charley Ellis - Indexing and Its Alternatives (EP.62)
Jul 30, 2018 negative
Assertion Partly supported
SPIVA data shows 84% of active funds underperform over ten years
“Take SPIVA is now putting out the data. Take the funds that were in existence 10 years ago and bring all of them forward, including the ones that were merged out or terminated. What fraction of them could not keep up with the index that they chose as their ben…”
Charlie Ellis Jul 30, 2018 ▶ 24:53 Charley Ellis - Indexing and Its Alternatives (EP.62)
Jul 30, 2018
Insight
Investors benefit by doing less because most portfolio adjustments are mistakes
“And the less you do, the more you benefit is the reality about investing. Because usually what you do is you make mistakes.”
Charlie Ellis Jul 30, 2018 ▶ 33:03 Charley Ellis - Indexing and Its Alternatives (EP.62)
Jul 30, 2018 neutral
Insight
The real competition in private markets is among allocators, not fund managers
“The real competition today is not by the investment managers to get your investment money. It's by the people who've got money to get access to the best investment managers. And that's been true for the last decade in venture capital. It's now clearly true in …”
Charlie Ellis Jul 30, 2018 ▶ 53:36 Charley Ellis - Indexing and Its Alternatives (EP.62)
Jul 30, 2018 negative
Opinion
The term 'passive' unfairly biases investors against sensible index strategies
“Passive is a negative word. We're all taught to be active. Take charge. Do something. And it's a shame that nominal terminology has put an enormous negative effect Right on top of a very sensible way of doing it.”
Charlie Ellis Jul 30, 2018 ▶ 1:09:00 Charley Ellis - Indexing and Its Alternatives (EP.62)
Jul 30, 2018 positive
Disclosure
Greenwich Associates bought Berkshire Hathaway in the 1970s and gained 300x
“So as a defensive move, we bought some Berkshire Hathaway. And candidly, it's worked out beautifully. But what I wish has gone up 300 times from where we bought it. What I wish, obviously, is we bought more. That's probably the biggest mistake I've ever made.”
Charlie Ellis Jul 30, 2018 ▶ 1:15:18 Charley Ellis - Indexing and Its Alternatives (EP.62)
May 31, 2021 positive
Insight
Ellis: Fiduciary duty must precede commercial profit in asset management
“The business part is really nice, but it is not the motivating force and it is not what we should be aiming for. We take it because it comes, but the real purpose is the professional side.”
Charlie Ellis May 31, 2021 ▶ 7:15 Charley Ellis – The Magic of David Swensen (Capital Allocators, EP.197)
May 31, 2021 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Ellis: Yale checked up to 25 references compared to industry standard four
“I've served on 14 different investment committees, and the usual due diligence is four or five references for any major manager decision. Ah, not at Yale. 15, maybe. 20, maybe. Might even get to 25.”
Charlie Ellis May 31, 2021 ▶ 11:16 Charley Ellis – The Magic of David Swensen (Capital Allocators, EP.197)
Dec 12, 2022 negative
Opinion
Arthur Andersen collapsed by prioritizing partner compensation over client service
“For years, Arthur Anderson was the outstanding professional firm. And then a group of people individually, and then collectively, and then more and more people got involved with, I care so much about how much I get paid, how much I take home, that I'm really n…”
Charlie Ellis Dec 12, 2022 ▶ 12:25 Charley Ellis - Figuring Out Investing and Vanguard (Capital Allocators, EP.286)
Dec 12, 2022 negative
Insight
Institutional ecosystem participants contribute to pension and endowment fund underperformance
“The theory that I was putting forward and I stand with it right now is that all the different participants have made contributions to the problem of investment results, particularly of pension funds and endowment funds, typically underperforming the markets. T…”
Charlie Ellis Dec 12, 2022 ▶ 14:28 Charley Ellis - Figuring Out Investing and Vanguard (Capital Allocators, EP.286)
Apr 3, 2023 positive
Insight
Joy: Starting in fixed income is probably the best foundation for investing
“I actually think starting out in fixed income is probably the best place to start if you're going to have a successful career in investments. It really sort of grounds you, makes you sort of really understand the sort of Charlie Ellis winning by not losing Man…”
Tom Joy Apr 3, 2023 ▶ 7:15 Tom Joy – Divine Diversification and Responsibility at Church Commissioners (Capital Allocators, EP.306)
Nov 25, 2024 negative
Insight
Bank: 14 to 17 investment committee members is too many
“Charlie Ellis would tell you five to seven committee members is the right number. We see some institutions where they have 14 to 17. That's too many. It's very well understood that after a certain point, the loss of motivation and the loss of coordination of a…”
Matt Bank Nov 25, 2024 ▶ 19:36 Matt Bank - "GEMs" of Risk, Asset Allocation, and Manager Selection (EP.419)
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