BDC

also referred to as: bdcs

8 statements across 5 episodes · 3 bullish · 3 bearish · 5 people on the record · first statement Nov 28, 2022 by Charles Van Vleet · across every show →

Everything said about BDC, oldest first

Nov 28, 2022 positive
Insight
Pre-Fund Niche Strategies With Nickels To Deploy Dollars Rapidly During Dislocations
“I just will have a lot of niche strategies that I leave a nickel in so I can push in a dollar later. So for example, I keep a nickel in Fallen Angels. I keep a nickel in these closed-in funds. I keep a nickel in BDCs because when you get a banana peel moment, …”
Charles Van Vleet Nov 28, 2022 ▶ 39:26 Charles Van Vleet – Thinking Differently with Pensions at Textron (Capital Allocators, EP. 283)
Feb 13, 2023 positive
Opinion
Feliciano: Permanent capital is the most interesting structural trend in private markets
“The most interesting trend out there that we have to think about is the different versions of permanent capital, and that can be in a waterfront. There's a version of permanent capital that could be partnering or doing something with an insurance company that …”
Jose Feliciano Feb 13, 2023 ▶ 1:01:55 José E. Feliciano – Flexible Private Market Investing at Clearlake (Capital Allocators, EP. 297)
Jun 2, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
DeVeer: Competitors Have Queued Retail Credit Capital to Limit Inflows
“We've actually seen one or two of our competitors queue credit capital over the last year or two.”
Kipp deVeer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 39:36 Kipp deVeer – Scaling for Private Wealth Globally in Credit (Private Wealth 5, EP.449)
Jun 2, 2025 positive
Insight
DeVeer: Financial advisors favor semi-liquid funds over volatile public BDCs
“I had this debate for years with financial advisors where I'd say, just buy the BDC. Well, my clients don't like it when the stock goes up and down and they don't like the correlation to the market and the volatility. And so we'll do what we do. And stock goes…”
Kipp deVeer Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 16:44 Kipp deVeer – Scaling for Private Wealth Globally in Credit (Private Wealth 5, EP.449)
Nov 24, 2025
Assertion Supported
Kelly: BDCs Shifted from a Venture Model to Private Credit Post-GFC
“BDCs originally were created through a congressional act in 1980 as a way to bring capital into private businesses in the United States. The original BDCs back then was more of a venture capital model. It was really only after the great financial crisis that B…”
Mike Kelly Nov 24, 2025 ▶ 38:03 Michael Kelly – Democratizing Access to the Middle Market at Future Standard (EP.473)
Mar 30, 2026 bearish
Insight
Private credit returns depend entirely on fund-level leverage to attract investors
“One of the issues with private credit is all the returns are predicated at leverage at the fund level. You need fund level leverage to get anyone excited about it. If anyone came out with a unlevered BDC, it would be a yawn, especially after fees.”
Kieran Goodwin Mar 30, 2026 ▶ 43:30 Kieran Goodwin – Private Credit Concerns (EP.494)
Mar 30, 2026 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Private credit BDCs are mislabeling industry concentrations in their loan portfolios
“Literally putting in every loan into Claude or ChatGBT to figure out what do they think it is. There has been some mislabeling of concentrations.”
Kieran Goodwin Mar 30, 2026 ▶ 42:12 Kieran Goodwin – Private Credit Concerns (EP.494)
Mar 30, 2026 negative
Assertion Supported
Public BDCs show massive valuation discrepancies on identical syndicated club loans
“There's some obvious ones where you see, let's just say public BDCs that own the same club deal, the same loan. One BDC versus another, or two or three versus a fourth BDC, there's a massive variance, in a second lien especially, where you're like, wait, the f…”
Kieran Goodwin Mar 30, 2026 ▶ 28:25 Kieran Goodwin – Private Credit Concerns (EP.494)
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