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Holiday: Pursuing an enduring posthumous legacy has zero value

Ryan Holiday · How To Build Self-Discipline For 2026 (5 Step Routine) | Ryan Holiday · Dec 31, 2025 · at 1:03:49

Author Ryan Holiday discusses Stoic philosophy with host Codie Sanchez, reflecting on Marcus Aurelius's views regarding the vanity of pursuing posthumous fame.

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“I think a lot of people, they spend all this time trying to create this, not just success now, but this monument that endures for all time, as if that's of value. Like, it isn't. It's not only something you don't control, even if it was guaranteed. It doesn't do Marcus to realize any good that I'm quoting from meditations right now. It doesn't bring him back from the dead.”

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