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Marcus: Models like o1 are not systematically better than GPT-4
“Models like O-I are not systematically better than GPT-IV. There's, they're better in certain use cases. Especially ones where you can create data in advance.”
DeepSeek used model distillation to match OpenAI's o1 at lower cost
“And, you know, they've just used the process of distillation to, you know, effectively bring those bigger versions of the sort of state-of-the-art models and distill them down into you know, smaller models, which eventually led to this R-one, you know, the equ…”
Wang: China's DeepSeek produced the first replication of OpenAI's o1 model
“OpenAI released O-one and released the O-one preview a number of months ago... Yeah, this is OpenAI's advanced reasoning model, which is great at sort of scientific reasoning and mathematical reasoning and reasoning and code, et cetera. And the very first repl…”
Patel: GPT-5 will simultaneously scale pre-training and post-training reasoning
“And so now GPT-Five, as Sam calls it, is, is gonna be a model that has huge pre-training scale, right? Like GPT-Five, but also huge post-training scale, Like O-one and O-three and continuing to scale that up, right? This would be the first time we see a model …”
OpenAI o1 Benchmarks Show Major Gains Across Math, Coding, and Science
“So if you think about, ah, competition math, ah, GPT-IV-O was getting a 13.4 accuracy score on competition math. But this thing and the way that it can think through the different problems is getting 83.3, ah, score on accuracy. Ah, with competition math. So i…”